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3 Nov 2003
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I don't know, in everyday work it's very convenient, I used it in MLO alot..
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In MLO there was a good feature when you could focus on a certain task making other tasks not visible. It can be very helpful to keep you concentrated on a certain task or in case you have a very extensive tasklist. It's like "Show current tasks" view when you can zoom in and out a specific part of your tasklist.
Cheers,
Alex
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What about combining: Filter Bar > Show > Selected Tasks
with Filter Bar > Options > Show all subtasks ?
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I does work, thank you, maybe I wasn't persistent enough
Yet my proposal is to make the action really fast, one-click, just zoom in/zoom out. And if you do it more than one time it can take some time (in order to get back to a regular view you need to reverse all the clicks again).
If it means additional and not easy-to-go scope of work, nevermind, just wanted to share my side of TDL experience 
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In the granddaddy of outliners "ThinkTank", this was called a "Hoist" command, and it was one of my favorite features. The hoist command is described here in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner[^]
Quote: Hoisting an item hides all parent and sibling items; thereby focusing, or zooming in, on a particular branch. De-hoisting again reveals the full outline.
modified 16-Oct-13 7:57am.
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You might want to consider to use Autohotkey.
If you create an 'always on' script (= a script that runs all day long) you can put different scripts/macros in one script and use shortcuts to execute the different filters. You could even use a single script as an external tool (one external tool = one click).
Jochen
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Autohotkey can be a good point but my proposal was actually not regarding the how to do it but rather how to make it faster and simpler. Learning (and usage) curve should not be too tough for a TDL beginner (or even for more experienced users )
Alex
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mugrrrr wrote: Autohotkey can be a good point but my proposal was actually not regarding the how to do it but rather how to make it faster and simpler. Learning (and usage) curve should not be too tough for a TDL beginner (or even for more experienced users ) I agree that there is a (little) learning curve involved, but AHK does not only help regarding ToDoList. AHK makes life so much easier while working with windows computers. So it might be worthwhile to learn how to use AHK (a little). AHK makes your work definitely simpler and faster and less "stressful".
Jochen
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Get it Here.
Changes from 6.8.A2
- Fixed Calendar localisation under 'Classic' theme
- Fixed minor theming issues
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I have a "one man shop" where I log my time for software development and related tasks, log specific issues in Bugzilla, and ultimately do my invoicing with integration between Excel and Word. I occasionally contract other developers into my projects and need to bill their time to clients.
TDL has evolved in the way it allows us to track the time spent on our list items, but frankly I haven't been able to find the time to really integrate TDL into my accounting process. I'd like to make much better use of TDL in this process, moving the time I log in TDL as close to the actual invoice as possible. Ideally I'll have TDL open all the time (or the Android app), log my time, audit my time once in a while, then do something to export all of this data into an elegant invoice.
How are other people doing this? Has anyone automated an export into some accounting system?
Thanks!
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iamstarbuck wrote: I haven't been able to find the time to really integrate TDL into my accounting process Have you also enabled logging tracked-time to a csv file? This feature was intended to allow users to later mine the CSV for invoice-related information.
And, interestingly, this question comes up relatively often and I always make the same offer:
If you can tell me what information you need to complete your invoices, then I will be happy to encode that process into TDL in a generic way that will also benefit others. Perhaps the most useful thing you could do would be to post a reply, outlining the principal elements of your invoices that you need filled.
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Hello Dan!
I have a similar problem but with time timesheet. I want a daily report and the Monthly Report. example of the form a report see the attachment (especially important to automatically receive a monthly report, as the completed tasks can be found in TDL)
http://yadi.sk/d/oSucAn7z7oNgK[^]
if I have a chance to use the TDL for this purpose?
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Strahser wrote: I have a chance to use the TDL for this purpose? Not exactly.
In the preferences TDL allows you to log 'tracked' time to a csv file that you can later process to give you the information you want, but TDL cannot yet give you information directly.
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It's taking me a while to go through the exercise of trying to use both TDL and my existing time tracking mechanisms. But I'm eager to use TDL exclusively so I'll do what I can to provide better feedback on this.
I think the fundamental issue so far is that it doesn't look like we can log comments for a single time-logged event - all comments are per-task. I need to be able to create a supplement to our invoice with detail to tell clients what I did on a specific task on some day/time.
Compare this to the Work Break Timer[^], an AHK script that was written to integrate with TDL. Each time it's invoked we can enter a note that says what we're doing right now. While I was Very enthusiastic about that utility, I stopped using it some years ago because it still didn't provide the full integration that I needed. While FOSS, the developer also lost interest (as it happens) and now unfortunately the source for the last version isn't even available.
I'll post more notes as possible.
Thanks as always!
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Many thx.
iamstarbuck wrote: I'll post more notes as possible. That would be great. Could you also post as a new top-level message pls.
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I'd like to propose the following functionality for 6.9: http://abstractspoon.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/71310899/LogReport.png[^].
I acknowledge that there is still the issue of being able to assign comments to each piece of logged time, but we resolve that with an optional popup dialog when the time-track button is clicked to complete a piece of work.
I may be able to do this for 6.9 also.
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This product has evolved so much over the years. I don't have the time to keep up with it - which explains why I need something like TDL. I miss several releases, get an update, and rarely take the time to go back and see all the things that have changed. I need a TDL that includes "Update TDL, Read version notes, spend time with software to understand changes, read forum, ..."
What's the best way to keep up with this product, and on top of the endless set of features? Ironically I often get so busy that I stop tracking my to-do list items in TDL and then everything goes to hell.
Does anyone update a wiki or other documentation with notes about how this software can be used to solve various real-world problems like team management, invoicing, or project management with Gantt charts?
Thanks.
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iamstarbuck wrote: What's the best way to keep up with this product, and on top of the endless set of features It is a notorious problem because developers (aka 'me') don't often like to write documentation, and users (aka 'you') don't often like to read it (no criticism intended).
Windows and Office are classic cases in point, neither of which IMO has ever really successfully achieved its goal despite throwing lots of money at it.
And part of TDL's specific problem is that I write this app for pleasure, and documentation doesn't give me a lot of pleasure compared to coding
And much of the rest of the problem is that whilst there is a Wiki[^] that can be updated, most people using TDL are doing so probably because their workload precludes simpler (aka Post-It notes) solutions, and therefore they also do not have the time to write to the Wiki.
However, there is new documentation in the pipeline, which I sincerely hope will improve the situation. Other than that I can only suggest that you visit this page regularly and turn on 'Automatically check for updates on startup' in the preferences.
iamstarbuck wrote: notes about how this software can be used to solve various real-world problems like team management, invoicing, or project management with Gantt charts Try this page[^] on the Wiki.
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.dan.g. wrote: However, there is new documentation in the pipeline, which I sincerely hope will improve the situation. It is and it will .
Jochen
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Get it Here.
What's Changed From 6.8.A1
- Added tree control to Outlook importer to preserve hierarchy
- Fixed localisation of Calendar days/months
- Fixed crash when switching edit fields location
- Fixed hiding of default filters
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Thx, I'll look into it some more.
[update] The issue seems to be related to the 'Classic' theme... [/update]
modified 15-Oct-13 23:07pm.
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Yes, it's true!
I'm using Windows 2003 with classic theme. After switching to XP theme the weeks headers are OK.
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