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The Weird and The Wonderful forum is a place to post Coding Horrors, Worst Practices, and the occasional flash of brilliance.

We all come across code that simply boggles the mind. Lazy kludges, embarrassing mistakes, horrid workarounds and developers just not quite getting it. And then somedays we come across - or write - the truly sublime.

Post your Best, your worst, and your most interesting. But please - no programming questions . This forum is purely for amusement and discussions on code snippets. All actual programming questions will be removed.

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I'm not against third party stuff in general, but..
jim lahey wrote:
as we're not modifying it and it's already freely available, we won't have a problem redistributing it.
You don't have to modify it .. yet. Someday there will be a problem where you have to choose between modifying the library or some worse option. That's not uncommon (what library really does exactly what you wanted, rather than exactly what someone else wanted? often the problem is hard to work around, too), and it's often bad news for the license.

Some other reasons I frequently have are
- Is crap. No contest there, I think. No one likes a library that's crap.
- Impossible to use. Applies to 80% of all open source libraries pretending to be "portable". What they really mean is "works on one's-complement processors and platforms where ints are 27.5 bits" - it won't compile with MSVC.
- Not as good as I could make it. Sure it'd save me time, but I don't like using bad solutions just because they're easy. Probably doesn't apply to a widely used 5-rated library though.
- Integrates in an invasive or crappy way. Especially happens with libraries that are too framework-like.
- Is a moving target. Not so bad if you can ignore new versions, but sometimes the new version has a feature that would save you a lot of time .. and also has breaking changes. Being forced to make a choice like that pisses me off. Bonus points if that happens at least twice a year. Sometimes old versions even have an expiration date (anyone who does this can go die in a fire), or it auto-updates itself (again, go die in a fire. no one pulls this off without ever introducing a problem - that I will get blamed for of course).
- Is dead. Dead projects don't inspire much confidence in me, even if good things are claimed about them. Bonus point for pretending to be alive when they're not.
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