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Why do people trust media and celebrities and hoopla over rational logic and the study of actual history? Seriously, are books really that hard to read? All this talk about the Confederate flag being so evil in light of recent events, clearly shows people don't understand what a straw man attack is.
And, if anyone honestly thinks the civil war was over slavery and hate, especially when the North had slaves too, just because they were told that in kiddie school, they need to pick up a book meant for intellectuals for once. The South was trying to abolish slavery before the civil war kicked into full gear. It took them longer to catch up with the North for economical reasons... not hateful ones. Oh, and Lincoln was a bit racist. Mind = Blown right?
What the war was really about was too much government control and money... not racism. Like every war ever... it comes back to power and using whatever story people are gullible enough to believe in as way to justify it. I mean, duh. People still don't know this? If people would read more and argue less, all this hate crap would end.
The flag is synonymous with rebellion not racism. In the South, the underlying theme is we don't need no stinking government to baby us.... as in rebels. Yes there is racism in the South. Racism is stupid and morally wrong and gross. But is it exclusive to the South? Nope. And the answer to ignorant racist people is not more ignorance.
Shitting on flags and hating people in the name of non-hate is still hate. At the very least, people should educate themselves from something besides mainstream television and kiddie school before forming extreme opinions in which they wish to use as a basis to hate others with.
Sorry, had to get that out. Was originally going to post that on FB, but let's be real... FB isn't where you go for smart people.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: we don't need no stinking government to baby us.... as in rebels
Yah I thought they were called Rebels - in all the TV shows I have seen  , I don't and won't read American history.
It still looks like PC going over the top from here.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I don't and won't read American history.
And I think that's completely fine, just as long as people accept they shouldn't cast judgement and hate on something they don't really know anything about... which is most of the general public.  I sure don't know every country's history. Can't really expect every country to know ours as well as I do.
Mycroft Holmes wrote: It still looks like PC going over the top from here.
I haven't followed the news recently for this very reason, but to me Political Correctness is just another way of saying No Freedom of Speech. When will people learn.
Oh well, I ranted. Thanks for reading it. Hope your weekend goes awesome.
Jeremy Falcon
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And then there are the facts:
Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union[^]
" an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery,"
"The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which "
"they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery;"
"the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. "
etc
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Not quite the same outcome as in Rupert Holmes' "Escape (The Piña Colada Song)" song. 
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...and he was especially angry when he realised the 27-year old he booked was actually 43!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Wonder if he got a discount or was he charged more?
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You are assuming he got laid, or fed!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Sacking Homework, County Schools Tell Parents to Read With Their Kids Instead[^]
Quote: In this Florida county, kids will no longer be burdened with hours of harrowing homework – instead, they will be encouraged to read with their parents.
It's a good idea. I'm interested to see how it plays out. Unfortunately, I think the bigger challenge may be getting the parents to sit down for 20 minutes with their kids. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I can see an obvious benefit - the kids might be able to teach some of the parents to read! 
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- Homer
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RyanDev wrote: Unfortunately, I think the bigger challenge may be getting the parents to sit down for 20 minutes with their kids.
Most parents will rent the movie.
..and of course, excercising math in your spare time can never be as fruitfull as reading with a parent.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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They didn't told what kind of book.
And I know a couple of books that have a cool history and still teach things like maths, electronics, phisics, philosophy and many other disciplines.
I am not telling it is a good idea, but in some cases it will be an improvement
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I can see the logic behind this. I don't think giving kids in Elementary School homework is conducive to learning since I have yet to meet a child that would prefer homework over toys. Those first years of school should focus more on proper socialization and learning the fundamentals then testing and rote memorization.
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Foothill wrote: Those first years of school should focus more on proper socialization and learning the fundamentals
well said. Soft / Social skills are quite fogotten and they are as important as "usual" knowledge. And nowadays... with electronic toys and computers... even more important
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No, it is because he gave equal blame to the right wing racist biggots and those who protested their racist biggotry, for the violence.
He is wrong of course, the act that trigerd the violence is the existence of this far right biggoted group and the fact that they marched and promoted their racist and biggoted views.
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Who threw the first punch?
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The white supremacists by marching with swastikas.
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So the footage I saw had the right marching, and the left blocking.
The right marched into the left. If you call this a physical assault then the right threw the first punch.
Anyway, it is irrelevant, who punched who is immaterial, the fact is the right are objectionable, it is they who are wrong, and protest against them if perfectly valid. In fact to be encouraged.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: the fact is the right are objectionable
And the left no less so.
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No no no no!
The left are NOT anti-semitic and racist!
They might be anti-globalist, anti-bank, anti-capitalist etc, but this is not the same, surely you see that?
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Provide evidence that those that protested against the far right in Charlotesville are racist or anti-semitic.
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You really have the knack of responding to comments and questions with a totally unrelated reply.
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="I am running away because I can't" [while claiming my question about Charlottesville protesters was irrelevant to the Charlottesvile protests]
Thankyou for confirming you have no evidence.
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Go to Parent'Art of the Deal' Ghostwriter Everybody Thinks
Hopes President Trump Will Resign Before the End of the Year[^]
FTFY
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I think I'm going to start offering my opinions about every foreign PM and president. It sounds incredibly boring but it must be great fun. 
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What should I bring...? Popcorn or beer?
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As long as you're sharing... bring both!
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Start with ours! See if you can come up with better insults than we do!
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Richard Deeming wrote: Start with ours!
The old broad with the Corgis or the bull dyke who hates immigrants, the police and basic human rights?
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I had a conversation recent that was very much along those lines. The right to free speech and peaceable assembly is protected by the first amendment. Here, we have an example of one group of people actively attempting to prevent the other group of people from exercising their rights. While I find the messages of the Alt-Right intellectually stunted and pathetic, they have the right to say them. What I saw here was that a series of escalations where the counter-protestors deliberately blocked the alt-right protestors from exercising their rights under the first amendment. In that regard, the counter-protestors where in the wrong. How the alt-right people responded was wrong as well, you don't club your way through a wall of people that have convinced themselves that you're an enemy that must be stopped at any cost. In that regard, the alt-right crowd was in the wrong. The police should have put themselves in between both sides to stop the escalation but they didn't. In that regard, the police must also share some of the blame.
I'm not defending any side, in fact, they are all to blame. It's obvious that both sides came prepared to violently defend their views. You can't beat an idea out of someone's head. It's pointless and, with these kind of ideas, only reinforces them.
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Foothill wrote: I'm not defending any side, in fact, they are all to blame.
Bzzzz! Sorry! Wrong answer! The entire media, all social networks and even your own political party is going to disown you. Bye!
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Being that I am not an elected official or celebrity, I think I can accept that outcome. Less junk email in the ole' inbox from (what seems like thousands) of political groups looking for a hand-out is worth it
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RyanDev wrote: From many discussions here and elsewhere, it has become very clear that one of the big reasons people have a problem with what Trump says is actually with what he DOESN'T say.
...I'm just pointing out that most of the problems are actually caused by people filling-in-the-blanks with their own prejudiced views.
It isn't that simple.
If I am wandering down the street and some random person shouts out something offensive I just go on my way.
Consider the same thing if a police officer had pulled me over for a traffic stop and said it. Or the judge that was ruling on my criminal trial said it.
The more power the person has then the more specifically and carefully they must speak in public forums. And the more powerful they are then they must carefully consider the meaning of what they say.
And the president is the most powerful individual in the US.
He gave up the right to say whatever he wants whenever he wants to when he decided to run for office. But apparently he failed to understand that responsibility.
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"but there was violence on both sides!!!!!"
Yeah, the police shot the assholes.
Sometimes, you need to identify the assholes and deal with them.
(Of course Trump didnt tweet this, I was merely drawing a parallel between biggoted racists and biggoted racists).
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Bullshit there is no parallel between two mutually antagonistic group having a go at each other and a single coward attacking unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van.
If you meant that as humour it was in very bad taste. If you actually believe there is a parallel then you have a warped sense of balance.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: and a single coward attacking unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van.
Just curious... this is not related to Barcelona, is it?
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I was ranting about the drawing of a parallel between this attack and the recent contretemps between 2 groups in the US.
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RAH
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ok, I was just wondering because I didn't heard about such in Spain
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 it is front page news everywhere.
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It is even in the post title!
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I know about the terrorist attack.
I meant that with the innocent guy being attacked in the van that he used as example answering you.
see my first message and what I quoted in it.
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"unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van."
He meant the terrorists used a van to kill innocents, not that the innocent was in the van.
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Richard already clarified it...
I just understood it the wrong way
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And Jimmy Kimmel has the ear of many people and he knows that and said something so stupid but many people believe him. The mass media does the same thing and many of you here also do the same thing. Shame on you.