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We've been very, very hands off on the Soapbox but frankly this forum has lost its meaning for us. The goal was to provide a place where members could have a good old rant about stuff that affects their daily programming lives. It's become a place to bait and troll.
The anger, the pointless ribbing of other members, the general darkness here is not making me proud of what we've built. There needs to be a change or we will just walk away and close the doors on this forum.
So:
1. No personal attacks. I can't even believe I need to write that one out on CodeProject.
2. No trolling. No deliberating picking something you know will upset others just for entertainment.
3. No hate talk, racism, sexism, anything that's just outright unpleasant. We're not asking you to be angels, but we are saying you need to apply basic decency to your discussions.
4. Threads that seem designed to inflame pointlessly will get locked.
5. We're the final judge. There's no debating if we kick you off the forum or off the site. We are very lenient so you know we don't do that on a whim, so if you're off you're off. We won't be giving you the pleasure of a public fight about it.
cheers
Chris Maunder
modified 7-Feb-18 22:55pm.
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Recognise it as the deaths head skull from the SS? SS badge[^]
Hitler and Nazi support were boosted by: Erich Ludendorff - Wikipedia[^] Famous Prussian general from WWI
And German National People's Party - Wikipedia[^] Prussian party, whose members switched to the Nazi party in 1933. Which is when the Nazi party got elected.
After admitting so many old style Prussian into the Nazi party Hitlers policy went from being anti army pro brown shirts (horrified the Prussian military) so he had the brown shirt leaders killed, knight of the long knives, and absorbed the rank and file int the army. It also caused the Nazis to focus on Russia and Poland as the enemy, just as they had been to Ludendorff and Bismark decades earlier.
Anti semitism was even Prussian.
It is easy to see people like Hitler as aberrations, as freaks of history. Whereas in fact they are rooted firmly in the culture of the time, and so bring into question that culture.
And with the reunification of Germany, the 'land across the Elbe', traditional Prussian, protestant, Nazi voting territory, is now united with western Germany. And now voting AFD in large numbers....
And the capital was moved from Bonn to Berlin. Old Prussian capital.
And also as before the money is flowing west to east too.
Did anyone ever say history repeats itself? 
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Are we the baddies?[^]
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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One of my favorite sketch comedy skits, ever.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
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Look, Matt still doesn't realize that most Germans are Prussians
Munchies_Matt wrote: Did anyone ever say history repeats itself?
How many wars did Germany start in the last 50 years? And how many did the US start?
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: How many wars did Germany start in the last 50 years? And how many did the US start?
Ohhhhh, I know this one!
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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What the f*** has the US got to do with the fact that Hitler was used as a front by ultra right conservative Prussians to act on their hatred of Poles and Russians?
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Munchies_Matt wrote: And with the reunification of Germany, the 'land across the Elbe', traditional Prussian, protestant, Nazi voting territory, is now united with western Germany. And now voting AFD in large numbers....
And the capital was moved from Bonn to Berlin. Old Prussian capital.
And also as before the money is flowing west to east too.
You're trying to imply that this particular part of Germany is continuesly conquering - it is not.
Munchies_Matt wrote: to act on their hatred of Poles and Russians?
No idea what the link to the US might be 
Munchies_Matt wrote: Anti semitism was even Prussian.
Existed long before that, and is not really a Prussian idea.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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See, I told you he was insightful.
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If there were less people like you we could start showing our flag again. But thanks to the people like you we keep our mouth shut.
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I didnt mean to offend you, I just found it interesting that the Nazi party had almost no support until the DNVP party closed, and all it's, hard line Prussians, started voting for it.
And that this in fact determined Hitlers policy, and gave rise to the SS. (Hitler had the Brown Shirts dont forget, but because they were a threat to the Prussian military HItler had to have them killed off).
Dont you think that this exonerates most of Germany? Lifts the mantle of guilt and shame from you and places it on the Prussians, who had after all FORCED Germany into an unwilling 'alliance' (actually a Prussian Empire)?
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And how come you think Prussians are not germans? The only thing we could say is that Hitler was austrian instead of german. Things reach far more back than only to the prussian empire you know.
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HobbyProggy wrote: And how come you think Prussians are not germans
You could say that Ceasar only called those west of the Elbe 'Germani'.
However the quite obvious cultural differences between West Germany and Prussia tell you there is a difference. Not only that, the Prussians themselves saw the rest of Germany as cannon fodder for its war on Slavs, and an industrial base to provide it with weaponry and buy overpriced grain from Junkers run farms in Prussia thus supporting an ancient and outdated feudal system.
HobbyProggy wrote: Things reach far more back than only to the prussian empire you know.
So you admit it was a Prussian Empire.
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I admit that a prussian empire existed, so did the HRE, so were the "Germani" also known as Barbarians. And so on.
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Doesnt being able to blame the Prussians lift the guilt from the shoulders of west Germans?
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Doesnt being able to blame the Prussians lift the guilt from the shoulders of west Germans?
No... the only ones able to lift the guilt from the shoulders of west Germans are the west Germans themselves.
Past is past. One must not forget it, must learn from it, try not to repeat it, but leave it where it belongs... the past.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Nelek wrote: must learn from it
Precisely, by understanding it, including its origin.
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It would not change anything.
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If I were from west Germany I would leap at the chance!
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Saw a very interesting WWI film called They Shall Not Grow Old. Guy Ritchie I think it was, had spent months colouring old film and and going back through past interviews with British Army survivors.
Some interesting things came out. They said the Germans troops often missed on purpose when shooting at them. And Saxon and Bavarian troops shouted out across no mans land to be careful next week as they were being replaced by Prussians.
This of course was only 50 years or so after Prussia went to war with Saxony and Bavaria. There seemed to be a lot of ill feeling in Germany for the Prussians still.
The second was the hatred for the Prussians in Germany for continuing a war the people wanted done with much earlier.
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HobbyProggy wrote: If there were less people like you we could start showing our flag again
If there were any justice in this world, Germany after WWII would have been razed and plowed under with salt. While Hitler came to power with the support of a minority, the vast majority were either silent partners or enthusiastic participants in the murder of Jews, Slavs, and anyone else the monster-in-chief called Untermenschen. The number of objectors was miniscule.
As someone said when asked why West Germany was not more active in persecution of known Nazi criminals: "Six million dead Jews don't vote. Five million ex-SS members can, and do, every election."
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Then we better start razing the whole world, africa, the US, asia and so on. I don't get it why people can not get over history. There were things made no one today (at least of those who have sense) would support anymore.
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Of course Britain should have helped Hanover when it asked for it when attacked by Prussia in 1860.
If the Prussian conquest of Germany had been averted then the Franco Prussian war, the Prussian Austrian war, and two world wars would not have happened. And neither would the Holocaust.
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