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My hope is that cone November when cong meets to decide new parry structure by pushing all old guards out and bring in new faces. Winning 2019 may be difficult but have to reduce the majority of BJP so that they are in coalition and allies will check the rise of fringe group. It worked with nda 1
cheers,
Super
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Trouble is the Congress is going to fight the BJP's pro-Hindu-stance by taking a pro-non-Hindu-stance. That's equally bad in my opinion. This will just divide the country.
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I hope they take the route where it was big umbrella... All are welcome ... Especially marginalize section of society...
cheers,
Super
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Nish Nishant wrote: This will just divide the country.
That's been the motto of congress since it was founded. They're very good at it, and have demonstrated some impressive feats at it (just look at history).
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: (just look at history
I went through the book and found none... Can you give a instance but if you look into recent past, I think it was BJP which is tearing it up
cheers,
Super
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You might want to read the post before responding? 
We were discussing about which political party has played a major role in dividing the country in the past. Hopefully you already know the "correct answer", as there's only one such party.
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I know I cannot reason with you regarding social fabric. but why 7 for economy?
cheers,
Super
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I didn't ask "why" to the 0.01% who voted for congress in spite of the loot and rape that party committed against the nation, because it's what they perceived to be the right thing.
In other words, I shouldn't have to 'explain' to someone about why I perceive something in a certain way, just because that someone happens to disagree with me.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: I didn't ask "why" to the 0.01% who voted for congress
It was actually 19.31 %, but I guess fact doesn't matter in this polarized discussion and only rhetoric is king.
cheers,
Super
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Indeed rhetoric is king, because you're latching onto something irrelevant in spite of understanding what I precisely meant with that example, rather than making an effort to assimilate the overall point I made.
However, if you'd speak only numbers, I could then remind you of 2015 Delhi legislative assembly election. How many seats did congress win? *crickets chirping*
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S.F 6-7
Eco. 7-8
Empl. 4-5
You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.
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After Congress Vice President arrogantly declaring himself ready to be PM of India on basis of Dynasty,
Samajwadi Party leader Akhilesh Yadav joined the Dynasty chorus by suggesting: "Dynastic rule exists worldwide" and thus defending Pappu's dynastic remarks in Berkeley(USA).
Where Pappu justified Dynasty by giving the pathetic example of Mukesh Ambani and Jr. Bachchan. Here this moron is forgetting India is not his Daddy's privately owned firm just like Ambanis. India is world's largest democracy however still those Congi morons defending Rahul Gandhi's stupid comments one by one, no one got balls to oppose this even though that guy is still dumber than the 5th-grade student.
I am surprised, Why the elephant these guys believes in democracy!?
Certainly, such mentality and arrogance are only going to help BJP.
You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.
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At the end of the day if a strong leader candidate exists in the Congress party he or she will surely come to the top. In the absence of such a leader, they usually resort to this sort of thing. It may or may not work for them.
I feel bad for India's political scenario. You have the Congress party, known for corruption, without a powerful leader. You have the BJP, not as corrupt but with very strong right-wing Hindu ideology. Neither is good for India. And there's no 3rd front in sight.
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Overall the point is, why all the leaders, either from congress or BJP or xyz parties thinking this country as their father's property and they've got every right of heirloom to run our country! Rather then being elected by public, the shameless morons openly advocates the Dynasty ruling and that's the biggest what the elephant!
Nish Nishant wrote: At the end of the day if a strong leader candidate exists in the Congress party he or she will surely come to the top
I doubt it! Until and unless Royal Gandhi family exist even though a capable leader won't get chance to rise. All the capable leaders/persons has to make a way for the grand coronation of current Vice President and no wonder all those so called capable leader has to vote for him willingly or un-willingly. If you haven't watched, pappu declared himself as PM candidate and he is ready to be PM as its his Dynasty.(which is just hilarious).
Nish Nishant wrote: I feel bad for India's political scenario.
Yes, have same feelings. Everyone is corrupt to the core(Yes AAP & BJP as well, timely I've been critic to them as well) but of all these years even though we see how far we are from the actual development in these 60+ years only because of corruption & appeasement politics by ruling party.
Nish Nishant wrote: You have the BJP, not as corrupt but with very strong right-wing Hindu ideology.
Yes more or less they are no different then those leftist anti development naxalites.
Nish Nishant wrote: And there's no 3rd front in sight.
IMO, they are the most corrupted even more than congress.
You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.
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Nish Nishant wrote: I feel bad for India's political scenario.
When somebody living in the US says this,  you know that it's got to be bad in India. 
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Nish Nishant wrote: At the end of the day if a strong leader candidate exists in the Congress party he or she will surely come to the top.
If a strong leader emerges in congress he or she might have to defect and start a new party if they want to lead 
In this case, specifically, I feel his statements might have been taken out of context.
I read here[^]... He apparently said:
“Most parties in India have that problem. So don’t give us stick because Akhilesh Yadav is a dynast. Stalin is a dynast. (Prem Kumar) Dhumal’s son is a dynast, even Abhishek Bachchan is a dynast. That is how India runs.”
So he seems to have acknowledged that it's a problem... He's just whining about the fact that everyone seems to be taking his case... not just for being a dynast but also pretty stupid in his comments
Nish Nishant wrote: I feel bad for India's political scenario.
I'm not completely sure. Isn't it similarly absurd everywhere?
What I think is, there will always be some random absurdity wherever you have people acting purely as managers (as is the case with elected politicians in government). These people have no real work experience and hence struggle to keep their sanity, sense and positions intact by hook or by crook.
I wouldn't feel bad for India specifically in this case... I think the concept of governance, as we have evolved so far (everywhere, not just in India), is still flawed. It seems to give too much power to people who are basically supposed to be just overseers, on behalf of the public. Maybe generations of civilization will evolve it to a better system.
What do you think?
"It was when I found out I could make mistakes that I knew I was on to something."
-Ornette Coleman
"Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently."
-Anon.
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You need to put loads of burnol if current govt does not mend ways ... Demonetization is a disaster ! Petrol price going up as the same rate as GDP going down, no control, only Gomata seems to be biggest issue in India, and that even for Vote catching.
In reality Gomata too are dying under supervision of BJP leader !!!
Remember had Pappu done this, would have thrown him already,with Feku we are keeping up only because we still have faith but now that should be "understood" and all Indians are not "taken for granted"!!
Stop being paranoid about Pappu and Congis, look at current govt, Congi and Pappu are already "irrelevant" in current political scenario.
Now Dynasty in BJP:
Now let's look at the central government. There are several small dynasties within the party itself. Anurag Thakur, son of former Himachal Pradesh chief minister Prem Kumar Dhumal, is MP from Hamirpur, while Varun Gandhi, MP from Sultanpur is the son of Central minister Maneka Gandhi. Poonam Mahajan, daughter of former union minister Pramod Mahajan, is the BJP MP from Mumbai North-Central. Her cousin Pritam Munde, daughter of the late minister Gopinath Munde, is in Lok Sabha with her. Munde's second daughter, Pankaja Munde, is a powerful minister in Maharashtra.
Now Dynasty in BJP Allies:
Shivsena is a pure Dynasty.
Shiromani Akali Dal - Parkash Singh Badal and his son Sukhbir Singh Badal
People's Democratic Party (in Kashmir) - Mufti Mohammed Sayeed father founder of the party and daughter Mehbooba Mufti
Need more dynasty example in BJP too?
Vande mataram Jai hind.
Thanks,
Arindam D Tewary
modified 15-Sep-17 11:11am.
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Arindam Tewary wrote: You need to put loads of burnol if current govt does not mend ways ... Demonetization is a disaster !
You must be congress Bhakt here otherwise you wouldn't diverted the point by personal attack with burnol and bla bla bla.
You seriously have some understanding problems and you are being arrogant un-necessarily when truth is said.
The title is clear in itself where your darling congress party's moronic members are justifying dynasty rules and openly advocating it implying they don't see anything wrong whereas no other congress opposition is advocating that.
So have some sense and try to stick to the point or you can join the congress IT-cell.
Again! I am surprised to see congress chamcha(s) and Bhakts justifying/defending Pappu! 
You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.
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_Gandalf - The White_ wrote: You must be congress Bhakt
No I am not Congress Bhakt, and please understand who are called Bhakt. Please go through my post you would understand that I am not iota of congress supporter. But provided you have "brain to understand".
_Gandalf - The White_ wrote: The title is clear in itself where your darling congress party's moronic members are justifying dynasty rules and openly advocating it implying they don't see anything wrong whereas no other congress opposition is advocating that.
How brain dead you might be that, I quoted example of dynasty in BJP, you ignore it. I am not supporting dynasty, but if BJP itself has the Dynasty culture they morally unfit to fight against it.
_Gandalf - The White_ wrote: So have some sense and try to stick to the point or you can join the congress IT-cell
I have no intention joining IT cell like you. I am pretty good the way I am.
_Gandalf - The White_ wrote: Again! I am surprised to see congress chamcha(s) and Bhakts justifying/defending Pappu!
Please elaborate how did you get such idea ?? A person who himself is a big chamcha can only think other to be chamcha.
Again stop being paranoid about Pappu and his gang, they are already half dead, and Pappu himself can ensure they are fully dead. You don't have been spit venom about pappu and his gang everytime. I am not supporting but it is universal now that it is waste spending time for Pappu and his gang.
Thanks,
Arindam D Tewary
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Until candidates like rahul gandhi, diggi raja are in congress, congress will be out of picture in next loksabha elections
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Its a democracy still. People have to still elect him. The same happens in business like Tata and Reliance.
The question that has to be asked is if he is qualified or not.
_Gandalf - The White_ wrote: Certainly, such mentality and arrogance are only going to help BJP
Nope. BJP has its own Achilles heels and dynasity wont both be a much factor
cheers,
Super
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Off-topic, but not sure if you read this article.
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