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NewsHow much time do developers spend actually writing code? Pin
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Writing new code - most of the time, we can't write new code because management can't "quantify a business need", unless and until they realize that the current code stack is a steaming pile of crap.

Improving existing code - 95% of the time, optimization results in errors because the improvement didn't account for subtle (and cumultaive) side-effects. Side effects occur because they architecture isn't designed/implemented properly (concerns that were separated have reconciled and are living like hippies in a commune, intermixing and interbreeding to produce the hell spawn that is your existing code base).

Fixing bugs (maintenance) - any semi-significant change to an app that deviates from the original intent/design is guaranteed to break something. This is a direct side effect of "writing new code" or "improving existing code.

As the code quality degrades, the time spent in meetings increases. When a project first starts, you may have a weekly 15 minute status meeting. Once it's deployed, you have 1-2 hour meetings every day, discussing the problems (because testing was not thorough enough) or your "code improvements" went sideways on you.

Security issues arise because some assh*le in some 3rd world shith*le has discovered an obscure exploit that makes the security nazis go into a frenzy of "omg! are we doing this? omg!". The result is that someone higher up decides you need to take "proactive steps" to prevent "security issues", and plunks down a crapload of cash for apps like Fortify. Using Fortify takes time away from devs because they have to write memos and attend meetings defending their code and explaining why the Fortify scan is full of sh|t.

After more than 40 years as a dev, all this crap is pretty obvious to me, and I don't need some snot-nosed kid to conduct a pointless survey to illustrate why devs don't spend enough time writing code. The truth is that they're piling on non-dev tasks and concerns (DevOps), and we don't have the f*ckin time to write code. And don't get me started on employee retention.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013


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