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put down the cannabis
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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No soap, radio!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'm...happy for you?
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Are there any eels in your hovercraft?
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Drop your panties Sir William, I cannot wait 'til lunchtime.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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He's self-raising[^]
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Kris Lantz wrote: Sir, this is a Wendy's. "This is a supermarket", happened.
It is all fun and games..
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Is this a weird translation of I see dead people?
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Or maybe of the IT version, "I see dead pixels."
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Is this a weird translation of I see dead people?
As FaceBook and the world ages, we'll be seeing more and more faces of dead people on FB. Weird to think people will keep replying to their posts, liking their posts, long after they are gone. Yuck.
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Marc Clifton wrote: As FaceBook and the world ages, we'll be seeing more and more faces of dead people on FB. Weird to think people will keep replying to their posts, liking their posts, long after they are gone. Yuck.
I am a member of a text-based forum that has been running continuously since 1989. I joined in 1991. There are any number of posts there from now-deceased people and it is a little unnerving, especially if you intend to reply to an old post and then realise the person is dead.
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Yes; and I charge you $200 US dollars for the observation.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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These are not the droids you are looking for.
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Yes, me again, ranting about Win10 updates again.
So having stopped, disabled and renamed the Windows Update service things had been going OK for a while. Then it started prompted me to do an update, which I delayed (depending on the route you take to open the dialog, you can do this for up to either 7 days or 21 days... go figure). All goes well for a while. Then it tells me my version is no longer supported, I *must* update (I'm actually OK with using an "obsolete" operating system like Windows 10). I can do it either NOW this instant, or in an hour. Well I'm in the middle of something, so I choose "in an hour". Finish what I'm doing, but now's OK, I have a couple of hours before I have to set off on a journey. But there is, apparently, no way to trigger an immediate update manually. All I can do is change my active hours, which I do, as it also said an option was to do it during inactive hours. So I change active hours, and wait... and wait... nothing. So I simply do a shutdown / restart, as it described the update process as "requires a restart" - I assume it's already done the downloads. Takes about 5 minutes but... nothing. No update.
Further googling identifies a keystroke combination which will give me a shutdown menu that includes "shutdown and update". I choose that option. By now a fair bit of time has gone by and I need to be on the road in around an hour. After 55 minutes it's still on "4% - don't close your computer". Bugger that, I've places to be, things to do, people to see. So I close the lid and figure it'll just have to cope. It's 2021 after all.
That evening, I power it on; "Undoing updates" it says for about 40 minutes. Then starts prompting me to update windows.
This time I tell it to do it "now", and go to bed.
This morning, I start up (it's shut itself down) and my Classic Shell is GONE. I'm left with the *&£^$ useless Windows start screen or whatever it's called. Takes me a while to find Classic Shell (it's not deleted, just config changed so it doesn't run at startup... WHY?) and manage to get a usable start menu again.
I need to fire up Bluestacks (an android emulator) for work, but nothing happens. Task manager shows me it's launched, but no CPU activity and no interface. Several attempts later, (running as Admin and in Win7 compatibility mode) I manage to get a message; this version of Bluestacks won't run with Hypervisor running. Well, no, I know that which is why I'd disabled HyperV. The update had re-enabled it (silently). So I disable HyperV, but that has no effect whatsoever; even with it "disabled", Bluestacks still tells me its running. I spend ages un-installing Bluestacks and re-installing a different version that runs with HyperV. That works, so I spend more time re-installing the apps I need to use in Bluestacks and resetting passwords (which have been lost).
Out of curiosity, I wonder what WinUpdate has done that's so vital, and why it now HAS to have HyperV, and why it HAS to disable ClassicShell. So I startup Windows Update History - the screen is blank. Yep, updating Windows has totally lost the Windows Update History - including the latest update. I've no idea what has been applied.
Just now I needed to FTP something to a host. B**$~$& me, Windows has lost ALL my saved FTP passwords. I don't have a copy of them so I then had to reset all the FTP passwords and all the shortcuts and configuration of apps that use FTP to my host.
Windows Update has cost me at least five hours of wasted time, and goodness knows what else it's broken I've yet to discover. I've no information about what Windows Updates have been applied, and apart from stuff that's broken, there is no apparent evidence that anything has changed whatsoever. Not even a new icon.
WTF, MS, WTF? And how many hundred million times is this farce being repeated globally?
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I used Zorin once to save the $100 windows license fee. Worst $100 I never spent.
I will forever happily pay a windows license. Linux sucks.
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I'm terribly sorry that you had such a bad experience, but the obvious retort is, "If you had kept up with the updates, you wouldn't have had a problem."
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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And besides all that, who's PC do you think it is, anyway? Certainly not his.
Programs that behave like Windoze, downloading things you don't want (or elese!) seem to me to be straddling the line between malware and ransomware.
Ravings en masse^ |
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: downloading things you don't want (or elese!) Years ago people were suing Microsoft because they did not automatically keep their OS's update to date for security reasons. Now that Microsoft does a better job keeping it up to date, nobody wants them to auto update.
Can't win.
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SeanChupas wrote: Now that Microsoft does a better job keeping it up to date, nobody wants them to auto update.
Let's say that they do a lot more updates, but that with keeping up-to-date is arguable.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Legally, he owns the hardware, not the software.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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No, I don't believe that's the issue. I can see no rational explanation for why, when Windows detects I've gone to the bother of replacing it's crappy start page with a better menu system, that an upgrade should disable that for me.
Why can't they make keep the update history tool working? It always used to work, now it doesn't. At all.
What is the rationale behind "losing" all the passwords for my FTP network places as part of an "upgrade"? It's hard to believe there could be any. If they really have to re-enable Hyper-V when I've explicitly disabled it, then why not at least include some sort of messaging / report to let me know they've had to re-enable it?
It's a combination of laziness, ignorance, arrogance and stupidity.
Plus, when I purchased Win10 (or rather, purchased a laptop with Win10), I assumed I was buying into a working system. And indeed, it did work for me - once I'd discovered it's quirks, illogical and inconsistent interfaces etc, and installed some 3rd party tools to do the things I expect of an op.system that were missing. I never asked Microsoft to bombard me with demands to replace or remove perfectly usable functionality, to demand that I spend time and electricity applying updates I never needed, wanted or requested.
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But you're ignoring the fact that it sounds like you hacked the update system, and now are complaining that it doesn't work right. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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