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Indeed. but what can we do, it seems not a lot, beacuse there are now more robots than there are skilled folks doing the job.
Me personally, Iv'e been branching out more and more into teaching and authorship, I fear that in the next 10 years or so, I may even end up leaving software development behind, permanently.
I came into this game from the late 70's with one clear goal, and that was to pass on my knowledge, to work with other newbies, so they wouldn't have to go through the same routine of waiting weeks before you got a reply to your post on your local BBS, or having to spend hours searching usenet for that illusive text file that you saw 2 weeks ago, I always swore that I would pass on my knowledge, my skills and that I would help others avoid the pain I endured to get where I did.
But now like many have said in this thread, there are many of us with years of experience who's answers routinely get down voted on places like SO, simply because they appear on the asker's radar after a google search, but don't answer the asker's question immediately.
At least however, CP is still here, and myself and the rest of the team do what we can to keep Lidnug going, so those of us who do still care, do still have a place we can call home.
Bingo... And this, to a degree, has been one of those unforeseen consequences of our education systems churning out test scores.
I was watching it happen at Michigan State. When we graduated we had a Senior Design Sequence where we had to keep our code from the previous 2 trimesters, to teach us how bad code decisions in the beginning become hellish impediments in the end. (We wrote a compiler or a DB or an AI system from scratch).
As I was leaving in 1992, they were starting to water it all down, because enrollment was dropping.
But enrollment was dropping because the standards back in HS were dropping. Nowadays kids can't do Algebra after graduating HS, so they are planning to DROP it from college requirements???
This is a school system creating dumb robots. And schools were already designed to keep kids busy until they were old enough to work in factories. But now without Vocational options.
A huge dichotomy is what I see now. Kids in the Robotics club, and EVERY ONE else not even caring about how to use a computer, or being offered a chance to learn how to type. Literally EVERY kid has a computer, and no teacher giving TYPING SCORES as an extra credit???
Then they graduate from college without ever being REALLY challenged. And they don't think about leaving behind a legacy. They want to coast through this job to the next one.
Agreed. There was a sad tale in today's news that a university in Scotland has dropped a course because no students have managed to pass the end of term exams. Pardon? May be they should check the tutors instead.
And while driving home last night I passed an advertising poster with the words "Learn to code in three months". Damn! I wish that course had been running thirty years ago. It would have saved me a lot of time.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
Furthermore, being a CodeProject's member and articles contributor for about two years, it significantly benefits to my knowledge, experience as an IT-professional, my education and studies and also career achievements. The same I would also recommended to everyone else
CP is must 'must go to everyday' site (not just for getting another point). There is always something worth reading in the Lounge; I enjoy The Weird And Wonderful. Like most CPers, I am primarily a reader, not a contributor but I do appreciate the help and advice that the article give. As stated by Jeremy Falcon, CP is easier to work with than MSDN and the community is more helpful than SO. So, I agree with him in thanking @chris-maunder - CP has been an important part of my life for many years. Please pass on thanks to the hamsters as well.
I originally came here to get MFC stuff way back when (I had a username before my current one which has now been lost). Chris Maunder, Michael Dunn and others got me over the hurdle with the project I was then doing. Since then I've found quite important and useful stuff about various things on many occasions. Now retired I still get help with current projects from here. I'll add my thanks to yours.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
Growing up, Code Project was quite literally my virtual home - I'm pretty sure for several months I browsed it more than Google. I wouldn't have learned how to code if it weren't for this place.
Since I started Uni, it's been harder to stay as active around here as I used to be, but I do have to say that I really, really, love the CP's atmosphere and community - every time I visit it's like a breath of fresh air . The people here are genuine and friendly, and there doesn't seem to be any off-putting cultural obsession with being "cool and hip and trendy" at the expense of mastering proven tools and concepts. (Not that staying on top of trends is bad, it's just that other communities I'm in *cough cough* ermmhmmm *cough* can occasionally take it to an unhealthy "framework of the week" level where anything that wasn't released yesterday is bad.)
I'm not sure what the behind-the-scenes stats look like, but I sincerely hope this place isn't going downhill - is there a decline in traffic? Do we need more article writers?
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A.
it's worth saying that if CP never existed I know for certain I'd never would've been as educated as I became in development. And I imagine there are plenty of others out there that would attest to the same.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
This is the closest thing I have to a social network (hopefully the analogy doesn't offend!). Something of a home. It's the comfort zone on my left-most tab.
Work rules have kept me from posting articles on what I do (or whatever flavor it takes) - I'd like to exemplify applications that are as reusable as a well written function (or class, if you prefer). About embracing that third of these three states: true, false, don't-care.
Where else but home can you give counsel, rant, offer your two-cents worth and sometimes get a hand full of change hurled swiftly back into your face. Or, an upvote. One can even help a stranger in Q&A - now and then, an answer accepted.
Heck Hell, it's a family, clan, tribe, village, and occasionally a bad neighborhood in a bad part of town, with drive-by down-voters. A cyber world unto itself.
I think the main difference between CP and others are two:
1. Even you are a newcomer, you can argue with the big ones... You can vote and post and display your opinion (with others you have to cross certain barriers to even post a comment)
2. CP encourages self-made-solutions, and that of course makes it less popular in our instant-world...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
I agree CP is great and made a big impact on me, I learned a lot and learn new things every day.
For the people interested in SO (StackOverflow) here is an interesting post by Hans Passant: What is Stack Overflow’s goal? - Meta Stack Overflow[^]
So thumbs up for the creators and maintainers of CP, hurrah (3x)
I wouldn't be where I am today (which is pretty good) if it weren't for CP!
Signing up here has been the best thing I've done for my career and hobby.
I end up at SO for quick fixes that I need right this minute, but I come to CP to get educated and gain some long term knowledge.
So thanks Chris and everyone at CP
CP is my left-most tab, the first one I open each and every morning before I have my first coffee! It sits there all day, waiting to provide help, education and occasional amusement.
I started writing code when all you needed was a hammer and chisel... perhaps a slight exaggeration... but I joined CP back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and have never regretted the small amount of effort I put into it.
Well done to Chris Maunder and all the hamsters on your excellent work!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Vunic - Yet another engine built with CP platform. I learnt 70% of the stuff through CP. It's a major contributor for my career. I've grasped so much of things through articles here & by trying to answer the questions posted in Q/A forums.
And guess what, it's also given me a cute, funny signature
No matter how many great 3D games come up daily and become super popular, I always go back and play this particular classic game Age Of Empires 2. I feel the same with CP. It's classic, I wouldn't even want the UI to change. I've settled here so comfortably. Though I don't frequent as much as I did years back, I'm always lurking around, keeping touch & posting things in Lounge.
And mate, I remember it so clear, you took years long break from CP, and then you were back. You wasted years, didn't you ?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
I'm professional developer with decades of experience, but generally I don't post on SO because I'm scared. It seems that no matter how much effort you put into writing a good question for SO, someone will mark it duplicate and someone will call you an idiot for not being a coding demigod. And the fact that there is absolutely no time-out element to their scoring system is absurd. I have questions a decade old dragging my score down. It has been suggested I revise them to try to get a positive score, but I'd have to find a machine running NT and a ten-year-old compiler to do so. I've even spent about two hours writing questions with full downloadable solutions demonstrating the problem and not received a single up-vote. It all feels very cliquey.
CP is much friendlier. Obviously, it is only fair that you try to solve your own problems before posting and try to write the best question you can, but sometimes just the act of posting kicks your brain into a different slot and you suddenly see what you were doing wrong. I'm sure we've all been there - getting stuck in one mode of thinking, just needing a helpful prod in the right direction. I've done that on CP many times. Sometimes I will reply to my own question with an answer usually containing the word 'Doh!' and many times I've received helpful pointers from other members about what I am doing wrong, to which I've replied with an answer containing the words 'Thank you!' and 'Doh!'. But I don't think I have ever been made to feel an idiot here on CP.
So please keep up the currently open and friendly format CP. I for one feel I owe you a debt I could never hope to repay.
PS - Oh, and a big thank you to anyone who has taken the time to look at my (sometimes stupid) questions over the years!
Thank you to anyone taking the time to read my posts.
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