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My experience has been that Linux and its family is a PITA to work with. That said, I did find use for a Linux tools that allowed me to repartition the main drive (I was replacing the OEM Windows 8 with Windows 7) and also copy stuff off of another hard drive that was removed from its system (i.e., the old system's display was busted, and I didn't want to spend anymore on that old system, but I wanted to keep some personal files). But in terms of using Linux as a day to day OS, NO WAY!
With MSFT giving windows away, where is the cost benefit to Linux?
However, with the Munich council, perhaps they are victims of bad advice or bad maintenance?
Linux is a haphazard system, because no one 'owns it'. No one takes responsibility for marketing it, it is left to a developer to tune it to a particular environment, hence it ends up highly customised and non standard, used in applications like settop boxes, payment terminals, or hand held device. Look how successful Android is for example, or the fact you use a Linux OS to pay by credit card, Verifone devices use Linux now, and they have pretty much the entire market in the western world.
But, would I roll it out across a company for desktop use? Dont know. I dont know enough about it in hose situations to say.
Unix/Linux has a steep steep learning curve. I mean really steep. However, you can do things with it that people only dream of in windows. Microsoft is starting to catch up with things like PowerShell and Windows Nano. But the Unix world has had that for decades now.
IMO, for a server environment it’s a great OS. It’s not meant for the average user though. Never was. Never will be.
Unix/Linux has a steep steep learning curve. I mean really steep.
And the fanbois seem to be proud of that. For every action there is a highly encrypted command that looks something like a hashed value! I jest but a little - it was a long time ago that I helped administer a Unix/Windows (3.1 Workgroups!) setup, and although it was fun, having to look up all the arcane crap every time I wanted to so something simple really sucked!
UNIX evolved as a data processing tool, Windows as a desktop OS.
UNIX has a simple philosophy - here's a stream of data, let's manipulate it. Windows doesn't have that kind of conceptual foundation, it's more of an aggregated set of tools and features. There's a purity and a power to UNIX that I rather love.
That said, LINUX is not UNIX. LINUX is something else altogether - it may have started as an attempt to clone UNIX but it has become its own beast, free to evolve/devolve into whatever directions a diverse group of developers want to take it.
I have no direct experience of LINUX (I used to work with SCO UNIX, HPUX and AIX before I got drawn into the .NET world) so I'm in no position to comment on its technical merits but the lack of central control would seriously deter me from ever considering it for an enterprise platform.
The list is too long to go into right over my phone (I be typing on it) now but one such example is recompile the kernel to remove uneeded code for a specific server environment. It’s faster and from a security standpoint not having code you don’t need can help with exploits in that uneeded code.
I have never had a need to do that, nor even a desire to do that, nor have I ever met or worked with anyone who would want to do that. In fact most places I worked probably wouldn't want you doing that even if you could. Who is going to support a product on an OS that you have modified to remove code from? Also your reasoning implies that the kernel comes with exploitable code, and that you are a better programmer than the person who wrote the OS. Rather than giving people the ability to remove the insecure code, isn't it better that the code is simply secure in the first place?
Maybe you could pull another three reasons from this long list to see if they are things I only wished Windows would let me do?
I think compiling code out of the kernel is more a performance thing. I'm pretty sure you'd only do it because:
a). You're tinkering for the fun of it
b). You're building some embedded software to run on something mass produced, and the extra few cents per device for hardware is too expensive
c). You're building something to scale massively across thousands of servers and a slight performance loss for some functionality you don't need is expensive - probably in terms of computation time (which in the cloud directly translates to $$)
I guess maybe if you were concerned with security maybe there's a reason to do it, but I doubt you'd find many industries where that level of security is required.
If you're just talking about reasons you'd want to as a typical user I've got a few:
- Put a clock on the corner of both of my monitors
- Uninstall software and know it's not going to come back as a 'critical security update'
- Adverts and Telemetry (or adware and spyware as we used to call them) that are in Windows 10.
I have the start bar (ergo clock) on both of my monitors?
So you're basically saying that a valid reason to ditch Windows and all of the related software and go with Linux is to have a clock on both monitors? That is something that Windows users can only dream of? Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds?
Dar Brett wrote:
Uninstall software and know it's not going to come back as a 'critical security update'
I've never had that happen.
Dar Brett wrote:
Adverts and Telemetry (or adware and spyware as we used to call them) that are in Windows 10.
There's no adverts on my Windows 10?
At least we finally got there, the go-to-rant of all *nix people. "Windows is just bloatware and adware and spyware and not secure, and I can re-compile the kernel of my OS". You don't actually have any real, genuine, valid reasons, you just regurgitate the nonsense you read on the internet.
The argument wasn't that Linux does some things you think Windows doesn't, it's that you can do things with Linux that Windows users can "only dream of".
Using a different OS so you can have two clocks....
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