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Rage29-Jan-21 3:27

Rage

29-Jan-21 3:27

Stupid question, but is this the official hp website ?

raddevus29-Jan-21 4:00

29-Jan-21 4:00

it's not a stupid question and yes it is actually the official HP site.
Here's the first part of the URL: https://store.hp.com/us/en/MyOrdersView...

OriginalGriff29-Jan-21 3:53

OriginalGriff

29-Jan-21 3:53

I'd contact customer support, and ask if it shipped. If so, can I have a tracking number please? If not, when will it ship? And then decide if it's a "cancel this" job.

It's a poor site, but no worse than some I've seen that don't even tell you it's been dispatched until after it arrives ... Sigh | :sigh:

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raddevus29-Jan-21 4:01

29-Jan-21 4:01

OriginalGriff wrote:
It's a poor site, but no worse than some I've seen that don't even tell you it's been dispatched until after it arrives ..

Yeah, I've seen those that tell you after it has arrived that it has shipped too.
Our USPS (official postal service) works that way. You pay for tracking but you never see the tracking info until after you've received it. It's ridiculous.

Rich Leyshon29-Jan-21 4:35

Rich Leyshon

29-Jan-21 4:35

Reminds me of our local taxi firm. Had to use one a couple of weeks ago. Ordered using mobile phone. Anti-social time so taxi arrives within minutes ...

You sit in the taxi which sets off and then receive a text message to confirm your booking and how long it will be/how much it will cost.
Then one to tell you the taxi is on its way.
Then one to tell you it has arrived - by which time you're half way through the journey.

Still, there are good points. It recognises your number then suggests your most likely need e.g. "If you want a taxi from [home address] to [some place] then press 1 now." This appears to also take account of the time to decide if you're likely to be going out or returning home.

Saves all that forced communication with another human being. Even if it is a new journey, you have to fight with the voice recognition software for some considerable time with no success before it will grant access to a human.

raddevus29-Jan-21 5:12

29-Jan-21 5:12

Rich Leyshon wrote:
Then one to tell you it has arrived - by which time you're half way through the journey.

It's a crazy world! Laugh | :laugh:

AI is training us to accept this as "normal". Laugh | :laugh:

raddevus29-Jan-21 4:11

29-Jan-21 4:11

I decided to take your advice. I went back to the site and looked for a way to contact them.

Check this snapshot out[^].

The "chat with a sales rep" link does absolutely nothing. So freaking hilarious!!

Old-school commerce processs:
1) find a product you want to buy
2) pay money
3) take product home and use it

New commerce process:
1) find a product you want to buy
2) pay money
3) ...
Dead | X|

obermd29-Jan-21 4:20

obermd

29-Jan-21 4:20

Recheck your credit card. I suspect what you saw was the "approval" check to verify funds. I suspect the actual charge is not on your card (Federal CARD Act).

raddevus29-Jan-21 4:28

29-Jan-21 4:28

obermd wrote:
Recheck your credit card. I suspect what you saw was the "approval" check to verify funds. I suspect the actual charge is not on your card (Federal CARD Act).

I thought that would be the case too, however, the charge was completed and I've already paid the cash to the card too (paid bill off). I thought they would just put a $100 charge or something on there but it was the full amount.

Richard MacCutchan29-Jan-21 6:09

Richard MacCutchan

29-Jan-21 6:09

I don't know about Federal Law, but over here in the UK, your contract is with the credit card company. So you can demand your money back if you have not received the goods, and they have to reclaim it from HP.

raddevus29-Jan-21 8:04

29-Jan-21 8:04

Thanks for the info. Good to know. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

glennPattonWork329-Jan-21 5:01

glennPattonWork3

29-Jan-21 5:01

Well you know HP stands for 'Highly Priced' I have had two of their printers, good unitl they burnt out (or you had to buy new ink for them). I have a HP PC I got off Amazon for not too bad a price, had a couple of heat issues with it. If I'm paying I would not go for Computers/Printers from them, lab kit yes, home kit no! Big Grin | :-D

raddevus29-Jan-21 5:10

29-Jan-21 5:10

I agree with you but this was the low-price leader on my laptop.
Only $622.95 with
AMD R7 chip
16GB Ram
256GB m2 drive (kind of smallish)

I bought my wife an HP a few years back (i5, 8GB) and it is still running quite well too. Had good luck so far.

I'm a cheap-skate and anything else comparable was breaking $1000 and more.

Ron Anders29-Jan-21 10:35

Ron Anders

29-Jan-21 10:35

They wanted that quick on the books before new years. Yours and anybody else ordering late in the year. Many of our clients order then to ease their income tax burden, and trade it in for the abomination that today's laptops are. The plastic has gotten so brittle.....

markrlondon29-Jan-21 10:35

markrlondon

29-Jan-21 10:35

I always build myself. Warranty service (me!) is reliable that way. And I can only sue myself if delivery is late.

modified 30-Jan-21 15:51pm.

raddevus29-Jan-21 10:52

29-Jan-21 10:52

markrlondon wrote:
I always build myself. Warranty service (me!) is reliable that way.

Me too. I bought all my components for my desktop at MicroCenter and put it all together myself. The first time I had a bad mainboard but I just took it all back and now this fantastic machine has been running for almost 2 years now. It's way better.

but I can't build laptops. Laugh | :laugh:

Cp-Coder29-Jan-21 11:29

Cp-Coder

29-Jan-21 11:29

I only order from Dell. However, a month or so ago I advised my daughter-in-law to order her new laptop from Dell. Dell had to ship her three computers! First the first unit mysteriously disappeared from the truck of the shipping company! Then the same happened to number two. Finally the third one arrived. I wish I knew what Dell had to say to the shipper! They lost money on that deal! D'Oh! | :doh:

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raddevus29-Jan-21 11:34

strpbrk() in Microsoft's VCLib is *slow*

29-Jan-21 11:34

Wow, that is crazy it took 3 tries. You'd think Dell would investigate. I guess it's just a write-off.

honey the codewitch29-Jan-21 2:36

29-Jan-21 2:36

Two rants in an hour. Geez

Turns out (from the looks of things, unless i messed something up) strpbrk() is poorly optimized in Microsoft's VCLib.

I'm only getting <500MB/s in JSON(C++) on a windows machine compiled with cl.exe:
cl.exe /Zi /EHsc /nologo /GL /D "NDEBUG" /O2 /Fe:main.exe JSON-CPP\src\main.cpp
(I never use cl.exe from the command line so maybe it's wrong?)

On linux on my old machine that was 20 times slower than this one i was getting almost 600MB/s on a standard HDD on an old i5. But that was linux. This machine is a Ryzen 7 on an NVMe drive. On windows.

And yet? WTH!

Does anyone know if GCC will work on Windows without some virtual env like MiniGW installed?

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Nelek29-Jan-21 2:39

Nelek

29-Jan-21 2:39

honey the codewitch wrote:
Does anyone know if GCC will work on Windows without some virtual env like MiniGW installed?

I thought they brought up WSL for such things?

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honey the codewitch29-Jan-21 2:42

29-Jan-21 2:42

That's the opposite thing, I think?

This would be running a linux based app on a windows machine, not the other way around.

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Nelek29-Jan-21 2:44

Nelek

29-Jan-21 2:44

You asked about the GCC not about the executable app you are programing Poke tongue | ;-P

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honey the codewitch29-Jan-21 3:05

29-Jan-21 3:05

I meant GCC. my app should compile just about anywhere - even on 8-bit machines with no real operating system to speak of.

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dandy7229-Jan-21 4:39

dandy72

29-Jan-21 4:39

honey the codewitch wrote:
I'm only getting <500MB/s in JSON(C++) on a windows machine compiled with cl.exe:

I'm gonna play dumb:

What are you getting as JSON files, that is so large that processing half a GB of it per second is a problem?

I'm old-school, so I'm all for optimization. However to put things into perspective, 500MB is something that would take my internet connection a significant amount of time to download. Having some C++ code chew on a JSON file that large per second isn't necessarily what I'd be terribly concerned about.

honey the codewitch29-Jan-21 5:48