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nobody15812-Jun-20 12:24

nobody158

12-Jun-20 12:24

I also am my own IT and Developer where I work. It seems to be the best balance as I can spin up what I need or request one of my coworkers to do so with very little explanation if any at all.

Matthew Dennis11-Jun-20 9:32

Matthew Dennis

11-Jun-20 9:32

How about one VM running Docker, and then run your builds in Containers configured for the product?
Basically, bring the machine to the VM.

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Jon McKee11-Jun-20 13:42

Jon McKee

11-Jun-20 13:42

This. Admittedly I'm late to the Docker party but it really has a ton of advantages. No need to ensure consistency between environments for the product across the organization since that's handled by using a consistent image; it makes IT's life easier because as far as they're concerned they've just got a bunch of containers; etc.

It is a significant workflow overhaul and requires some training on use though, so that's a pretty big hurdle to overcome to get approval unfortunately.

charlieg12-Jun-20 8:17

charlieg

12-Jun-20 8:17

I'll have to read up on that, I was just happy to be able to get to the VMs.
Sounds useful.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Garth J Lancaster11-Jun-20 15:36

Garth J Lancaster

11-Jun-20 15:36

charlieg wrote:
So, let's say you have N products you need to do regular builds for. I'm of the opinion that unless the products are very close in their nature and build tools, they each get their own VM. In my mind, it limits the coupling between products and build requirements. I'm sure I'm going to have to explain this approach.

this, plus Matthew Dennis's comment - Docker/Containers .. if you dont go Docker/containers for the builds, at least use Docker/containers for the testing so you get a clean test environment every time, unless you keep a 'gold' image for the combinations and clone it when needed, then destroy the clone at the end of the run (we did this on a particular cloud test system).

As to 'very close in their nature and build tools', we had separate build machine(s) for language basically, C++, C# etc - even then, our C++ product had a large dependency on a third party GUI library that occasionally gave us issues, more with the paths and such

ZurdoDev11-Jun-20 3:32

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11-Jun-20 3:32

You are dyslexic.

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Re: When life gives you melons

W∴ Balboos, GHB11-Jun-20 4:55

W∴ Balboos, GHB

11-Jun-20 4:55

Dyslexic or not, squeeze them puppies !

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Re: When life gives you melons

Slacker00711-Jun-20 5:03

Slacker007

11-Jun-20 5:03

Re: When life gives you melons

Harrison Pratt12-Jun-20 1:58

Harrison Pratt

12-Jun-20 1:58

I prefer waterlemons, myself. Laugh | :laugh:

Forking code from CodeProject article on github

nujec11-Jun-20 3:22

nujec

11-Jun-20 3:22

Is it OK under the CodeProject license to create a public github repository from the source code linked to an article to share changes and bug fixes with the community?

The code in question contains no licensing except for the code project license CPOL: Code Project Open License[^]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my reading of the license suggests this is OK as long as:

- None of the article itself is used, only the source code linked to the article
- The source code repository contains a prominent URL of the CodeProject license (a copy of the license file would be a good idea too).
- "You insert a prominent notice in each changed file stating how, when and where You changed that file." though this could lead to some pretty ugly commenting if there are lots of changes. Git commit comments are a more usable way of conveying this information
- "You agree not to advertise or in any way imply that this Work is a product of Your own." Presumably adding clear links back to original CodeProject URLs would achieve this.
- "You agree not to remove any of the original copyright, patent, trademark, and attribution notices and associated disclaimers that may appear in the Source Code" - none to remove in this case AFAICT

modified 11-Jun-20 9:29am.

Re: Forking code from CodeProject article on github

OriginalGriff11-Jun-20 3:33

11-Jun-20 3:33

If you aren't sure - and the comments bit is part of the licence so it's pretty much mandatory - then talk to the author: there is a forum at the bottom of each article which lets you do that.
Ask them, if they say "yes" then you are OK.

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OriginalGriff10-Jun-20 21:39

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10-Jun-20 21:39

Near field communications usage is an unsubtle swindle, which gives the guys money for the shirt. (11, 7)

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Greg Utas11-Jun-20 0:08

Greg Utas

11-Jun-20 0:08

CONTACTLESS PAYMENT?

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OriginalGriff11-Jun-20 0:11

11-Jun-20 0:11

You are up tomorrow, care to explain it?

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Greg Utas11-Jun-20 0:38

Greg Utas

11-Jun-20 0:38

It was pretty much a stab at it.

near field communications usage (definition)
unsubtle swindle = CON
<something> = TACTLESS?
money for = PAYMENT

I'm curious to see how you get the rest of it, but of course this presumes that even you know. Poke tongue | ;-P

Canada has had "tap to pay" credit cards for many years now, whereas they only got rolled out in the U.S. recently. When we were living in the U.S. and were up here visiting, I used a Canadian card and my wife was like WTF | :WTF:

OriginalGriff11-Jun-20 0:44

11-Jun-20 0:44

Close:

Near field communications usage

is an unsubtle                 TACTLESS
swindle,                    CON
which gives the guys money  PAY MEN
for the shirt.                     T

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Greg Utas11-Jun-20 0:46

Greg Utas

11-Jun-20 0:46

"Close" is generous!

Andreas Mertens12-Jun-20 2:45

Andreas Mertens

12-Jun-20 2:45

Not just credit cards, we can also tap with our debit cards to pay. 👍

XKCD Font

Brisingr Aerowing10-Jun-20 16:38

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10-Jun-20 16:38

GitHub - ipython/xkcd-font: The xkcd font[^]

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Maximilien11-Jun-20 4:18

Maximilien

11-Jun-20 4:18

Days like this I wished fonts were embedded in source code !!

I commit all the source files in xkcd fonts and see my colleague freak out.

I'd rather be phishing!

dandy7211-Jun-20 7:30

dandy72

11-Jun-20 7:30

Sharing a screen is already enough of a hassle (I use a 4K monitor at its native resolution, a coworker uses 1080p with large fonts), I would NOT want to have to put up with other people's fonts in code...

It's bad enough already to get everyone to agree on tabs vs spaces...

Super Lloyd11-Jun-20 15:36

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11-Jun-20 15:36

Behold!
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kalberts11-Jun-20 18:48

kalberts

11-Jun-20 18:48

I just wish it had a full complement of characters - at least for Western languages (such as all the characters of ISO 8859-1).

I guess there has never been a strip where, say, æøåÆØäöÄÖ and the German double-s occurs. The Å is included - I guess that there may have been a use of the unit Ångstrøm, 0.1 nanometers. Maybe the artist, Randall Munroe, could be urged to produce samples of these characters, in an xkcd strip or standalone. It wouldn't be right to have someone else try to imitate the style, it must come from the original source!