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There is a wise old adage: "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is".
A week or two ago, someone in the Lounge (sorry - I forget who) was commenting on getting cheap licenses for Office 2019, saying that many of them are legitimate. I've been on Office 2007 since it came out so I thought I'd explore the market. The cheapest I found was £22.06 for Office 2019 Professional. So, I took the plunge and bought 2 licenses and installed one (the other is for my wife's laptop). After finding the official download site, entering my MS account and the license key, the install just chugged away in the background. It inherited all of my email settings (multiple accounts, lots of rules), all of the contacts and all of my old messages with absolutely no input from me. It did re-download everything again from my provider's email service, but hey! that's life; getting things twice is better than losing everything, which is what I had feared would happen.
My real worry was all of the little apps I'd written in Access 97 (before I'd upgraded to Office 2007) which had needed tweaking to work in Access 2007. Don't judge me for my choice of tools back in the last millennium. They all worked straight out of the box and even reinstated a feature that O2K7 lost (showing custom icons in the task bar).
However, I now have discovered that it is running the 32-bit version of the product. I thought O2K19 Pro was only available in 64 bit. Despite, that it seems to be running OK. Watch out for a possible posting from me in a few days / weeks time bemoaning my folly, but it looks OK at the moment; worth risking 2 * £22.06.
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jsc42 wrote: However, I now have discovered that it is running the 32-bit version of the product.
I am so old that I once wrote an internal memo arguing that 16 bits is enough, if you learn how to structure your system into segments (similar to the DLLs of today). It was more or less true, too, in those days: The Pascal compiler compiled to 17Ki 16-bit instructions. (The machine adressed by words, with separate code and data spaces, so in fact 64Ki meant 128Kibyte code, 128Kibyte data.)
Applications have grown to completely crazy sizes nowadays, so 16 bits should not be enough for everybody. But with the exception of a very small subset of problems (which is likely to require a supercomputer anyway!), if you cannot fit the stuff you are doing into 32 bits, then you should go back to the drawing board and strongly reconsider your structure of modules, DLLs, processes and whathaveyou. I see no valid reason whatsoever that an office package should not have plenty of space in 32 bits (heck - we were running a rather fancy office suite on that 16-bit machine!).
The demand for 64 bits everywhere is like the demand for a new car to be able to go 240 km/h in a country with standard highway speed limit of 80 km/h and only a few top rate four lane motorways going up to 110 km/h. Noone really needs the ability to go twice as fast. And extremely few need 64 bits. It is like 4K video on your 5" phone screen being an essential marketing point. Or HiFi sound distributed in 24bit/96KHz format. It is a sales point, but really, it is a "mine is bigger than yours" thing.
The HiFi markets ended up essentially ignoring 24/96. I wouldn't be surpised if we five years from now have a wave of "lean" software design in 32 bit format. Because with proper system design, there is no reason why any process would need more - even in light of the classical 640K-argument.
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There's a significant part of me that wants to disagree with you on this score, but I really can't. The flat memory addressing scheme beyond 4GB and the extra kernel potential there (depending on how your OS is structured) is about the only major benefit of going beyond 32bit in practice, and honestly, how necessary is it?
I think it's fair to argue that it's nice to be able to address huge memory windows beyond 4GB for many reasons, even if it's not physically backed by RAM, but again at the end of the day, it's not necessary.
The only problem with ignoring that is that it increases the cost of such software by making it necessarily more complicated - now you have to use segmented addressing of some kind.
I guess at the end of the day the engineers and bean counters came together and felt it was a necessary advancement.
So while I agree with you, I can see the other end of this too. There's definitely room for 64 bit systems. Maybe they don't need to be as ubiquitous though.
If I had to bet, I'd say 32bit isn't going away for the forseeable future.
Real programmers use butterflies
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That may be true, but I'm not just talking about desktops and laptops - I'm talking about CPUs broadly, including embedded
Real programmers use butterflies
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I want my dishwasher and washing machine to have 64 bits so they can wash more faster with less soap! 
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We live in an era of stupid consumers.
I say that because people think they need $100-$300 sneakers - just like a pro; and titanium golf clubs (Expensive substitute for aluminum unless you're making fighter-jets) and any number of other "pro" level (in price, at least) items because they need that edge - so they can win in the Olympics, I suppose.
The main advantage of the larger address sizes is to allow larger amounts of directly accessible data (max. amount data/file -> max no. records in table -> and so on). Very large calculations with very large number. For such purposes it is useful to have 64bits, but only for a very few. IP and MAC addresses need to have ever larger sizes available, but in most aspects of your claim I agree: everyone seems to think they need to buy a system that is designed for needs they won't have - but it makes the feel good to think they need it.
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jsc42 wrote: I thought O2K19 Pro was only available in 64 bit.
Nope. 
All products in the Office 2019 are available in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
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Quote: Staying Entertained… Hornily
Well, that escalated quicky quickly
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ZurdoDev wrote: Let's move on.
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So - it turns out it's the Police FORCE we have to worry about now, too?
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When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know.
But if you listen, you may learn something new.
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The Force that uses the Force will have the Force used on it.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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The sign said no Federation starship parking, not no Imperial starship parking. 
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Catch one without hearing precedent (8)
catch one without hearing precedent
president
Trump
no
catch one notrump
contract
modified 18-May-20 9:50am.
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TestCase??
cheers,
Super
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Hi Greg no one is ever going to solve these sort of clues - you have to play by a set of rules and you shouldn't need specific knowledge of anything to solve it ( bridge in this case ) ( if no one solves your clue you have failed as a clue setter )
A globally acceptable way to write your clue could be
Formal agreement to reduce (8)
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@GregUtas
I assume you won on Friday? The Lounge[^] Pompey boy didn't say, but ... someone is up, and I'm reasonably sure it's not me ...
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It's so horribly pertinent.
Probably always was. Probably always will be.
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Sounds like every politician who's ever lived.
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