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I'd love to watch these people read through any SPI documentation, their heads just might explode.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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jeron1 wrote: I'd love to watch these people read through any SPI documentation, their heads just might explode.
FTFY 
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 Truth!
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Will they demand that NBC cancel 'The Blacklist'?
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So blacklist and whitelist will become brownlist and pinklist. Problem solved. 
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I've actually read that multiple companies are replacing blacklist and whitelist with reject list and approve list or some such 
Brownlist may offend black people because they're actually brown (I can't believe no one noticed!) and pinklist is insulting to the LGBT+ community, duh.
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We really need a sarcasm icon.
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I wasn't even being sarcastic 
Or at least, I was, but it could quickly become the truth.
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No, I meant I was.
You see what I mean?
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We really need a sarcasm icon
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The interesting part is that blacklist comes from the old times (in Europe), when employers had a little black book where they listed unreliable workers that should not get employment.
Had nothing to do with skin colour. Still doesn't.
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I know, but we're heading towards the point where "black" is automatically associated with "black people".
If it then has a negative connotation, like blacklist, it's considered racist.
At least that's how some simpletons think.
I remember reading about some angry feminist who was enraged that the word "female" contains the word "male" and that this was just another example of the patriarchy.
Then some (male) linguist totally roasted her because the two words are unrelated
Perhaps we should teach etymology in schools so people know where some words come from
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Sander Rossel wrote: Perhaps we should teach etymology in schools so people know where some words come from
Yes.
Sander Rossel wrote: I know, but we're heading towards the point where "black" is automatically associated with "black people".
Even worse in Portuguese.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Perhaps we should teach etymology in schools so people know where some words come from
People already know how to Google, they are just really good at glossing over the results that don't fit their agenda.
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You're assuming people are aware etymology exist
But even if they did, you're probably right
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Yep. It was more a general observation rather than specific to your example of etymology.
I think there is a solid correlation between people who are popular on social media and people who don't care about facts. After all, you don't get many followers by trying to change people. Just tell them what they want to hear and they will love you forever.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Perhaps we should teach etymology in schools so people know where some words come from
That is one of my great hobbies! But in my school days, when a teacher tried to explain the orgins of words and expressions, most of the kids were moaning "We don't care!"
I don't think that has changed very much. I brought up a daughter to be just as fascinated by it as I am myself, but when I asked about her classmates, she shook her head: They don't care about that stuff. Some cultures are far more language aware than others; I wouldn't be surprised if French kids love to dig up the roots of all sorts of words. Maybe upper class Englishmen. Maybe others. But very few from Scandinavia.
A recent example: In Norwegian, being "blakk" is to be broke. Void of money. A "blakk" horse is of course broke, in the monetary sense, but it is also of very light brown color, bordering to off-white. I was suspecting that being broke was a reference to Afro-Americans, who were frequenty broke, but that couldn't explain the "blakk" horse.
It turned out that the complexion, being broke and the color of the horse had indeed the same etymological background: The b-word originally meant "void of". The man being void of money, the horse so light that its hide is (almost) void of color, and the Afro-American so dark that his skin is void of color. I enjoy discovering such connections!
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What are we going to call our degrees?
Not only Master - Bachelor is offensive to unmarried people.
For computer science I guess we could introduce Bit and Byte degrees (and maybe Word, for Ph.D), but that doesn't go well in other disciplines. Introducing a Screw degree in Mechanical engineering is bound to offend quite a lot of people. In economy we could use Dime and Quarter degrees.
Yet, the best would be to have a single set of terms for all. Maybe we could learn from sports and call it Bronze, Silver and Gold degrees? Or would that be offensive to those whose complexion is like bronze? Would gold be offensife to rich people? Or maybe gold brings up the apartheid years in South Africa, where lots of highly pigmented people were working under bad conditions in the gold mines?
Maybe we could call them F and C and K degrees.
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Ain't that the truth 
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Member 7989122 wrote: Maybe we could call them F and C and K degrees.
No U degree? 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I've actually read that multiple companies are replacing blacklist and whitelist with reject list and approve list or some such
So, they are explicitly trying to state that black = reject, and white = approve?
Stupid people: If you can't be bothered to teach them, join them.
I guess that just boils down to one of the fundamental problems: people are very lazy.
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You can find arguments agains using black/white in Dave A. Ricks - Big Business Blunders: Mistakes in Multinational Marketing/dp/0256028508[^]: One European vendor going to Asia, focusing on an image of pure white, clean and sound. Only that in many Asian cultures, white color symbolizes death (the way black does in most Western cultures).
By that color codex, a whitelist should be a list of dead alternatives or proposals. Maybe blacklist/whitelist isn't perfect in an international context.
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A good point.
But for a logical thinking person there is no problem, because whitelist is not "white list". It's a single word that means something specific, so the fact that "white" is a colour should not even be a consideration. The fact that the term may have originated based on colours is irrelevant to the meaning or usage.
Also, is anything perfect. Someone can always find a flaw. People love arguing and they can find an argument in damn near anything.
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Sander Rossel wrote: pinklist is insulting to the LGBT+ community
Is that a problem for audio people who refer to "pink noise" (as well as "white noise")?
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Pink Noise, White Noise is interferance to a signal not only Audio but thats where it gets referenced the most.
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