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Sander Rossel wrote: She's chilling in the high grass near the water about 100 m from my house.
If she is happier that way - and she probably is, since animals that are able to find their home from hundreds of kilometers away should be able to make 100m to come back - why try and keep her imprisoned in a house ?
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If she doesn't come back once in a while she'll be stray and feral and it'll only be a matter of time before someone else gets her, like a shelter.
She needs to learn this is her home first, so she knows where her food is and that she can sit comfortable indoors when the weather is bad.
Cats really love warmth and food, pretty much like any other animal 
After that she can learn to use the cat flap so I don't have to keep it open and then she can come and go as she pleases.
And hopefully it will please her to come inside once and a while by then 
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Cats are evil. If you are not convinced, just google it, plenty of videos to prove it. 
Ok, if the deal is either shelter or at your place, the she's probably better at your place.
I have a basic problem with people "owning" animals - we cannot define whether animals are happy or not, but I still think animals shouldn't be owned by people and would be happier in the "wild". But maybe I am wrong. And since my kids keeps asking about having a pet, I might have to confront this sooner or later. Resistance is futile... 
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I think pets, especially cats and dogs, can be happier having an owner.
They can eat and sleep all day.
Of course if your cat isn't the social type you should leave it alone and let it come to you, but otherwise it'll enjoy petting and cuddling.
Some cats like to be outside a lot so they are happier on farms.
Especially dogs are happy having an owner.
Heck, I wish I had the pet life!
Not caged animals like birds and hamsters though.
The problem is, at least in the Netherlands, that there really isn't a "wild".
Pink is now roaming the streets and may find a mouse or two, but she'll need a lot of mice to eat what she eats here.
I'm guessing she'll need four to five mice a day to get the same amount of food.
If she's still in the grassy field I found her in yesterday, there's a path next to it which can get busy, especially during the nice weather we have now (like 10-20 people an hour, with kids, just busy enough to not relax when you're a scared cat).
Next to that is a road where occasional cars drive around 50 km/h.
On the other side of the road is farmland, just acres of dirt since nothing grows there now.
On the other side of the grass where Pink is at, is water.
So Pink is basically stuck between people and cars and water.
The grass is mowed a few times a year.
Not exactly the "wild" she was designed for.
When people notice her there, they will probably notify authorities.
There's a house with chickens nearby, the owners probably don't like the idea of a cat near their chickens and who knows what they might do.
So yeah, I prefer her inside the house for now
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I agree it's wrong to keep animals, birds in particular
imagine having the whole sky to fly in then stuck in a cage not even enough room to flaps wings once - but they 'sing' so beautifully, ... or are they crying???
On the other hand a lot of animals, cats, dogs and birds are out of their natural place, are budgies natives of Canada, are cat's native to Japan - so they can't be just let go.
I think it's OK to take an animal from the shelter but they should be 'fixed' AND registered - entitled kids dumping animals when no longer cute should be a huge fine. Owning an animal not 'fixed' also a huge fine. For some breeding is a business, but the onus is on them to 'fix' the any animal before homing it, otherwise huge fine...
>> once it costs more to 'lose' an animal then get one people will think twice.
Stray non indigenous animals: if no one will take any (again after 'fixing') then just destroy them - sounds cruel but they are a nuisance, dangerous, and largely responsible for destruction of true native flora and fauna. (Of course in many cases easier said then done, but seeing as no big wars perhaps something for the army to do?)
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the goat in your machine wrote: entitled kids dumping animals when no longer cute should be a huge fine
I do agree in some sort of punishment. However the problem is, if you threaten punishment then instead of dumping them at a shelter, they will dump they over a bridge in a bag.
Overall though I do believe pet ownership should be more controlled than it is - preferably without some big corp milking the whole thing for money though.
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musefan wrote: However the problem is, if you threaten punishment then instead of dumping them at a shelter, they will dump they over a bridge in a bag.
If they are registered to YOU (or them but you as a legal responsible) in the first place, then it won't be such an easy option as it is now.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Yep that's a decent theory, and would probably work well for most cases. Although hard to police illegal breading and selling so there would still be a lot of unregistered pets.
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yes, you are right. Still... every improvement is still an improvement.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Rage wrote: but I still think animals shouldn't be owned by people and would be happier in the "wild". But maybe I am wrong.
You're wrong; we wouldn't have survived the middle ages without owning domesticated (non-wild) animals. Horses to plough the fields, chickens for eggs, sheep for wool. Cats to keep rodents out of the grain shed, dogs to help protect the family.
Survival comes before happiness, even for animals. Which sounds happier, the diseased hog in the snow outside that's being hunted, or the fat pig in the barn nursing her young in the warmth?
Quite a lot of dogs that mourn their owner; yet you want to imply that the feral dogs in southern Europe are happier? Flea-infested mangy dogs - in the wild there is a daily struggle for survival.
How about you? Would you prefer to live "in the wild" to be happier?
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Rage wrote: Resistance is futile
You are correct there and it is a good thing, pets should teach kids responsibility and all kids need that lesson.
A house is not a home without pets in it, especially when there are kids.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Have you considered getting a gps tracker for the cat when you manage to next find her?
It would allow her to roam free and for you to know where she is.
Although I have noticed that the cheeky advertisements for cat gps trackers use Maine Coon cats as their models, so that it doesn't look like they are wearing a brick around their neck.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Ball and chain !
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Yeah, I've considered it and if Pink let's me put it on her I'll definitely use that next time until I am sure she'll return out of her own 
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Just proves that the only good cat is a dead cat, unless you need a moving target.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor.
Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options.
When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window.
So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more.
After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Excel is also bad for this, putting up a little symbol menu after a paste operation, or previewing a window containing another Excel document, both covering up things that you want to look at. Just stop with all this nonsense!
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 But people who want this shite should have to go through this!
modified 29-May-20 6:18am.
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Couldn't agree more - quite how MS (or whoever) decide what the default should be is anyone's guess, but they didn't ask me - I wonder who they did ask, if anyone?
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Their instructions say 1. Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Excel Options.
What "Microsoft Office Button"?! Oh, this is for Excel 2007, which probably doesn't even open in Windows 10, and of course things were rearranged in Excel 2016. So after some hunting around...
>File > Options (way down at the bottom) > Advanced / Cut, copy, and paste / first check box
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Excel 2007 (and all the other 2007 Office apps) run just fine in Windows 10. And they have loads of title bar space.
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I was being facetious. Sort of.
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I like it, in my workflow a lot of times I paste only values not formulas (that are meaningless in the new workbook), and more often, I strip HTML formatting from text in Word with it.
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