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Starting with Viceroy or Regent? Actually carbon debts are very greedy! (9)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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VORACIOUS - greedy
V O R A C - initials
IOUS - debts
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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And you are up Monday! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: Meet 'farfarout'
Then far^3-out, far^4-out, ...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I hope they don't reach far^10-out. That's where I keep my bug free code.
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Too small for the Grebulons then?
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Too small for the Clangers[^] ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: it's only 250 miles (400Km) across. That's tiny!
That's what she said.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: OriginalGriff wrote: it's only 250 miles (400Km) across. That's tiny!
That's what she said.
To quote Al Bundy:
["Large" female customer]: How dare you say that to my face!
[Al]: Well I'd say it behind your back, but my car's only got half a tank of gas!
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Quote: Pluto, the dwarf planet, resides around 3.1 billion miles from the Sun, while Farfarout is an incredible 12.2 billion miles from the Sun.
That means that Farfarout is 4 times AS FAR. Not 4 times farther. It it were 4 times farther, then it would 5 times AS FAR.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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"A single orbit around the Sun takes Farfarout an impressive one thousand years"
Or as Farfaroutians like to say, it takes them one year.
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Fake news! I bet you even believe they put a man on the moon!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I can think of quite a few that should be sent there. 
Sans spacesuits, naturally.
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"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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There seem to be a trend these days with M$ breaking its own O/S with updates. It used to happen in the olden days (definition: anything more than a couple of years ago) but not as often. Windows 10 was supposed to be the ultimate solid, stable O/S and, after decades of experience and developmental work, it should have been.
Why isn't it?
Is it because all the old, experienced programmers who developed it are now enjoying their retirements on various beaches around the world and the new programmers are little more than script kiddies to whom new icons and competing with that fruit company are more important than solid, reliable code that does the job?
Is, as per the aforementioned fruit company, form more highly rated than function? 
Is it just that adding new, fancy but generally useless features are more important than fixing old bugs? 
I'm sure Marketing thinks so. 
Why wasn't Windows 7 left alone a bit longer? It worked, was the most stable version of Windows to date, and just worked with nearly everything?
Why did they decide that so-called smart phones were the future of computing and so ruin the desktop interface? I'm seriously thinking of going back to a flip phone.
...and for those who say Linux is the future, it's going the same way - only it's going several different ways all at once and seems to be getting less reliable by the day (it's those pesky kids again).
Applications should be more important than the operating systems. What you can do with your computer should be more important than how the colours and icons look - and how much blank, white space you can use up on the screen, and who the heck thought invisible until you use them scrollbars were a good idea? 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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� Forogar � wrote: Windows 10 was supposed to be the ultimate solid, stable O/S and, after decades of experience and developmental work, it should have been.
Why isn't it?
I guess it depends on your experience. Since windows 7 and almost back to windows XP, I have had nearly 0 issues with Windows. It works great for me.
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IMHO, they are hiring less skilled developers/employees to fill roles that required more skill and experience.
it's a lot cheaper to higher a 30 year old with less skill and experience, than a 50+ year old with way more experience and skill.
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Slacker007 wrote: it's a lot cheaper to higher a 30 year old with less skill and experience, than a 50+ year old with way more experience and skill.
You're kidding, right? No one wants to hire 50 year olds, not because they're more expensive, but because they're 50. YEARS. OLD.
The tech industry hires programmers in their 20's, managers in their 30's, and wants CEO's in their 40's. Any older than that and they just want you to die and get the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) out of the way.
I turn 60 in July.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I must disagree. I turn 57 next month, and am still a software engineer. My boss tells me that I am valued for the breadth of my knowledge and experience.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I'm 65, and still a programmer. Of the 12 developers on our team, I'm the only one that codes as a hobby. I'm looking forward to retiring in a few years.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Apart from being cheap, the 30 year olds are willing to work night shifts without compensation, to fit a manager's dysfunctional perspective on technical skills vs. NUMBERS that get them PAID.
Reality in a corporate mindset refuses to be tested in the TANGIBLE world. They honestly believe that, by uttering buzzwords, they have the "magic" to create their own "truth" by telling everyone only what they want to hear.
In reality, 50+yo technicians are hated to death for seeing through the BS, and refusing to serve their heads up on a silver plate.
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� Forogar � wrote: Is it because all the old, experienced programmers who developed it are now enjoying their retirements on various beaches around the world and the new programmers are little more than script kiddies to whom new icons and competing with that fruit company are more important than solid, reliable code that does the job?
Is, as per the aforementioned fruit company, form more highly rated than function?
Is it just that adding new, fancy but generally useless features are more important than fixing old bugs?
All of the above!
There are some very good young programmers out there, but many of them are going into "sexy" fields such as AI/ML, and see O/S development as something for old fuddie-duddies. Little do they realise that if the O/S is not solid, all of their towers are built on sand.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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They no longer have to ship a high quality product because they know they can push out a fix change any time they like.
Even DOS was much higher quality due to the inability to provide patches.
In other words, the existence of a solution has caused the problem.
I recommend using OpenVMS; it's very stable, secure, and hardly anyone tries to hack it or develop malware for it.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I recommend using OpenVMS; it's very stable, secure, and hardly anyone tries to hack it or develop malware for it.
It also doesn't (yet) have an x86 port that is usable on bare metal. If you need another O/S to host it, you haven't gained much in security.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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