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Re: OG was right all along

Greg Utas31-Mar-21 6:36

31-Mar-21 6:36

I don't remember the last time I printed code off! My guess would be 1999. Laugh | :laugh:

Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: OG was right all along

BryanFazekas1-Apr-21 2:57

1-Apr-21 2:57

I don't print my code, but I've printed inherited code on 11x17 paper with narrow margins, as I had to physically diagram it to figure out what it was doing ... 9 sheets in portrait mode using Courier 9 point.

In some cultures, a test of worthiness is going into battle. In IT? It's figuring out inherited code.

Re: OG was right all along

Greg Utas1-Apr-21 3:36

1-Apr-21 3:36

Quote:
I had to physically diagram it to figure out what it was doing

What happened to the original author?! That should have been job security! If I inherited that code, I'd have him renditioned and put under bright lights until that code got explained. Big Grin | :-D

Big Grin | :-D

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Re: OG was right all along

BryanFazekas2-Apr-21 2:33

2-Apr-21 2:33

Greg Utas wrote:
What happened to the original author?! That should have been job security! If I inherited that code, I'd have him renditioned and put under bright lights until that code got explained.

Dead men don't tell tales ...

He retired then died a week later.

Re: OG was right all along

Greg Utas2-Apr-21 2:38

2-Apr-21 2:38

I actually wondered if that might be the explanation. Rose | [Rose]

Rose | [Rose]

My guess is that code evolved many times, with no one having the inclination to restructure it.

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Re: OG was right all along

davecasdf1-Apr-21 4:02

1-Apr-21 4:02

My _132 column_ fanfold printout ( don'tcha miss the green stripes? ) plenty of room for comments after column 80.

But I don't miss being near the chain printer.

Re: OG was right all along

Jörgen Andersson31-Mar-21 4:44

Jörgen Andersson

31-Mar-21 4:44

If I recall correctly, OG is a fan of Wintersmith

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Re: OG was right all along

OriginalGriff31-Mar-21 4:59

31-Mar-21 4:59

Well, it was a good album, and an excellent pTerry book ... Big Grin | :-D

Big Grin | :-D

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Re: OG was right all along

Jörgen Andersson31-Mar-21 5:01

Jörgen Andersson

31-Mar-21 5:01

Smile | :)

I suppose you're a fan of whitesmith as well.

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Re: OG was right all along

Forogar 31-Mar-21 5:12

31-Mar-21 5:12

I miss TP - and I'm not talking about tp.

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

Re: OG was right all along

Jörgen Andersson31-Mar-21 11:06

Jörgen Andersson

31-Mar-21 11:06

You'd miss tp as well if it were gone.

Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

Re: OG was right all along

davecasdf1-Apr-21 4:03

1-Apr-21 4:03

Almanak with soft pages.

Re: OG was right all along

Slacker00731-Mar-21 5:30

31-Mar-21 5:30

Don't you know what this will do to Griff's ego if you publicly declare him "right all along".

Sigh | :sigh:

Sigh | :sigh:

Re: OG was right all along

OriginalGriff31-Mar-21 8:15

31-Mar-21 8:15

It's cool - I don't believe a word of it! Laugh | :laugh:

Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: OG was right all along

PIEBALDconsult31-Mar-21 11:34

31-Mar-21 11:34

Riiiight...

Re: OG was right all along

fd975031-Mar-21 6:20

31-Mar-21 6:20

I agree completely, whoever came up with K&R style ( probably K&R ) were out of their mind, no matter whatever other brilliant stuff they came up with.
What could be better than:

{  // this is where we do stuff for whatever reason
   ...
   ...
}

Re: OG was right all along

Greg Utas31-Mar-21 6:38

31-Mar-21 6:38

Their 8-space (tab) indentation is worse. Despicable, in fact.

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Re: OG was right all along

fd975031-Mar-21 6:47

31-Mar-21 6:47

I didn't know about that one but yes 'despicable' would be the only valid term I can imagine. Sigh | :sigh:

Sigh | :sigh:

Re: OG was right all along

Gary Wheeler1-Apr-21 1:57

1-Apr-21 1:57

Greg Utas wrote:
Despicable, in fact

The word 'despicable' is a moral judgment. Given that they invented the brace style at the same time they invented the C programming language, and tabs were 8 spaces wide because of teletypes and other such hardware, a little bit of understanding might be in order.

Software Zen: delete this;

Re: OG was right all along

Greg Utas1-Apr-21 2:45

1-Apr-21 2:45

I've been known to indulge in hyperbole.

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Re: OG was right all along

Gary Wheeler1-Apr-21 2:47

1-Apr-21 2:47

I prefer parabole myself, but toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe... Laugh | :laugh:

Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: OG was right all along

megaadam31-Mar-21 12:52

31-Mar-21 12:52

It WAS Griff, and me! But methinks he was advocating Whitesmith's

Indentation style - Wikipedia[^]

C++

if(this->aintUgly())
    {
    thenWhatIs(); // ??
    }

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Re: OG was right all along

den2k881-Apr-21 3:13

1-Apr-21 3:13

Ugh, workable but I don't like it Big Grin | :-D

Big Grin | :-D

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Re: OG was right all along

BillWoodruff31-Mar-21 20:16

31-Mar-21 20:16

Allman all the way, for me. "White space" is cheap, now ... compared to when "real programmers don't eat quiche." [^]

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Re: OG was right all along

Vikram A Punathambekar1-Apr-21 1:09

Vikram A Punathambekar

1-Apr-21 1:09

Ah, it's been so long since we had a braces war Wink | ;)

Wink | ;)

Allman style is awesome, K&R is fugly Dead | X|

Dead | X|

But I like Python even better, where indentation determines scope.

Cheers,
Vikram.

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