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I just use my own "framework". I hate messing with stuff that's more complicated than it needs to be. Unit testing is straightforward and procedural. There's no reason to have the massive buy-in required by NUnit or MS's framework. KISS. Just my $0.02
Real programmers use butterflies
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OriginalGriff wrote: It's a bug that was reported in 2018
But... but... but... don't they do TDD and Unit Testing? How could there be bugs? 
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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As if you didn't know ... 
AMNESIA
A name is ANAMEIS
troublesome (anag)
A name is troublesome: AMNESIA
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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So are you up on Monday ?
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Morning All. I have a bunch of archaic equipment that I manage that uses hard drives with IDE/PATA interfaces. Obviously these are getting hard to find so I'd like to find a reliable IDE to SATA interface. If anyone has an idea of one that works well, please let me know. Thanks in advance!
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I don't think you'll have much joy with PATA<->SATA.
I suggest you try for USB to PATA. I've used a couple of no-name ones successfully.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Some of these systems don't even have functional running USB connections.  I don't think I could get them to boot from them, but thanks for the idea. I might have a couple I can try it on. 
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Sorry, on reflection I realise I misunderstood your question. I thought you were trying to read old drives pulled from those systems (the kind of thing I do all the time).
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Amazon sell them: Amazon.co.uk : IDE to SATA Converter[^]
But ... You'd probably be better off junking them: the youngest IDE HDD drive is probably around 15 years old, so the MB's you are trying to connect your new SATA drives to are going to be pretty aged, and may not like your new drives that much anyway. Remember that many IDE motherboards didn't support HDDs bigger than 30GB without BIOS patches, and the smallest SATA you will find is way bigger than that! There were problems with larger drives with various older OSes as well.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Wish I could. I tried one version that worked for a couple weeks before corrupting. I'm going to try this[^] one from StarTech. Thanks!
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I have a lot of IDE drives too.
When I want to connect them to modern PC I use something similar to that (old version for SATA1) also from StarTech. Never had corruption or other types of problems but never used it full time.
Maybe the one you had working for a couple of weeks overheated and burned something?
StarTech boards usually work OK but read all the documentation and the fine printing on their site before you buy to make sure it is compatible.
Some years ago I bought a rather expensive softraid controller from them that worked fine until I changed the motherboard (same year/chipset but different manufacturer). It stop working and had a major caveat. It only works if the MMU setting on the BIOS is disabled (which the "new" motherboard does not support disabling) 
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I had a couple of them deployed and they ended up corrupting the hard drives so I shelved the trial at that point. And you're exactly right about StarTech stuff.
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Hmmm...you've just reminded me I have a box full of old drives, some IDE, that I should probably hook up to a system, copy whatever might still exist on them (if worthwhile, and I don't have any other copy of), then run through DBAN.
At this point, it's not worth hanging on to hardware so old it's getting difficult to hook up to newer systems.
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How many do you have? I might be interested.
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I just dug up the box. These are the IDE drives I have:
- 40GB
- 80GB (x2)
- 120GB (x3)
- 160GB
- 200GB
As I mentioned, I'd run them through DBAN first. As far as I can remember, they were all working last time I tried to use them. Which was probably years ago.
I can't imagine cost of shipping would make them worth it. What would you do with them?
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They would be imaged and run on an commercial printing press. I'm interested, but at the same time, I don't think I can finagle a way to pay you without raising issues from the accounting boys. I appreciate you checking though. 
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I have a project I'm working on - a one click ESP32 firmware uploader that runs on windows without having python and a bunch of other crap installed.
I told my client I couldn't estimate it yet because there are too many unknowns and I need to poke at it for a bit before I can come up with a timeline. You ever been there? Probably.
The thing is though, privately I'm targeting under 15-20 hours because if it takes longer the client will probably balk and I'll look ... less than great for having underdelivered in terms of budget on something that they expected to be relatively inexpensive.
I am not sure I can hit that goal. I can privately do some of it on my own time to spare my reputation but I don't like to give away work on principle - it's not really about the money - more it's just bad business - usually, though in this case it might be worth making an exception.
Part of me would be okay with it by virtue of the fact that my client gave me the go ahead to publish the work product here at code project, so even though it's not something I would have written for free, I can give it away for free, which makes me more inclined to develop some of it gratis.
I'm torn.
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If it means maintaining a good relationship with your client ( future work etc ) I would definitely be inclined to make an exception
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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But you don't want a good relationship if it is based on you being the looser.
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Yeah. I agree. This one has been *very* good to me though. Treats me very well. Gave me a raise without me asking for it, almost doubling what we had initially agreed upon.
They don't seem the type to take advantage.
That having been said, my problem went away, because I was just pointed to an exe that does exactly what I was writing code to do. Means less money in my pocket, but a very happy client, so I'm good with that.
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote: Gave me a raise without me asking for it
You could look at it like they've prepaid for some future extra effort. They sound like a keeper.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Been there.
It's important the client knows the actual costs, or they're going to expect you work for free/less money.
I literally gave a customer a "customer loyalty discount" because it was their third fairly big project with me and even then I didn't budge all the way to what he wanted.
He wanted a €4000 discount, I gave him €1500 I think, and I still got the job.
We'll be discussing his fourth project later this year.
Another to-be customer expected me to do a €3000 job for €500, I said no to that.
I knew the guy and I told him I'd be willing to meet him halfway for this one time if that meant future work and because it'd really help him out of a tough spot.
I did it for €1500, but never got the future work.
He'll help me set up my Exchange account for free though, so I guess it sort of works out in the end.
Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some.
Just don't be the nice person who always loses.
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Turns out someone wrote what I needed already. Magic! It means less money for me, but a very happy client, so all's well. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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On a "15-20" hour project I would be showing something to the client every day to keep up their enthusiasm; estimate or no estimate.
If those hours then becomes weeks, through extensions, then it becomes at least weekly deliverables. Never less.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Motörhead – Ace Of Spades[^]
An oldie today!
Last weekend, me and the boys had a gaming weekend.
From Friday night to Sunday night, gaming, snacks and booze (at least as much as we could at our ripe old age of over 30  )
The game we chose for the weekend was Back 4 Blood (from the makers of Left 4 Dead).
It's basically non-stop zombie shooting.
In one mission you have to distract the zombies by starting a jukebox at a bar and much to our surprise Ace Of Spades started playing.
Few things in life are as satisfying as killing hordes of zombies in a bar room blitz while Motörhead is playing in the background
I did the mission a few more times last week and Motörhead became SOTW!
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