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12-Dec-22 2:22

Just a brief visit, was going through my old emails and thought I'd pop in to check if id overtaken griff in the rep points yet and see how you geeks are doing. Still Virgins im guessing but apart from that hope you're all good.

Me? I'm good. I gave up software about 5 years ago because it's a lot more boring than Tony Stark makes it out to be. Jokes. I gave it up to be a single dad. Had been split from the kids mum for about 18 months, when she came and dropped them to me one weekend - apparently they were getting in the way of her hedonistic lifestyle- and off she f***ed. The change from a decent salary + bonuses to universal credit was (and still is) difficult to say the least. And is only possible by supplementing with side earns such as selling friends flower buds or Knocking (buying gold on doorsteps). I also consider myself a (semi) professional gambler now.😂😂 Well I take more than I give, so why not. Plus it sounds better than "dosser" . Wouldn't change it for the world though as I know the kids are safe, and it's all about them.

So those I know and remember me, how's things? What's changed with you in the last 5 years? Still playing the game...oh sh*t sorry.

Those that don't know me, feel free to say hello. I'm pompey boy, I used to own code project but Chris won it off me during a wild poker game in a strip club in malibu.

OriginalGriff12-Dec-22 2:23

OriginalGriff

12-Dec-22 2:23

Liar! It was a Pétanque tourney in a lap dance club in Tehran! Unsure | :~

Welcome back - you don't have to still be a regular developer to pop in and post drivel, we even allow dossers these days.

Have a few extra points to get you at least closer ... Big Grin | :-D

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pompey-boy27-Feb-23 14:24

27-Feb-23 14:24

I do remember a time when I actually was above you in the rankings and CG was top.🤣

Slacker00712-Dec-22 2:33

Slacker007

12-Dec-22 2:33

Its been a long time. Good on you taking care of the kids. I probably would have kept the boring day job - having the kids and all.

pompey-boy27-Feb-23 14:43

27-Feb-23 14:43

Good to hear from you slack.

den2k8812-Dec-22 2:39

den2k88

12-Dec-22 2:39

In 5 years? I got married, changed two companies and a dozen customers, got into an altercation where weapons and pseudo-mobsters (that's what they tried to pass for, they aren't) were involved followed by 2 criminal lawsuits that are still going on. I doubled my income and now I'm working in the best place I ever worked in, with even a couple of coworkers whom I was friend with during Uni.

I started playing MMOs and I'm liking it. I read bout a couple hundred books and I discovered myself a fan of the Xianxia genre. I discovered a lot of bands, from old classics like Fleetwood Mac and Blue Oyster Cult to local bands that formed less than a year ago, passing through innovative sounds like Mongolian folk metal (The Hu). I started my own LP collection.

Oh and I helped a friend to not end himself.

That's the brief summary I'd say.

GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

modified 12-Dec-22 8:56am.

pompey-boy27-Feb-23 18:49

27-Feb-23 18:49

I love my music. I've not had a TV for a year out of choice. So would just listen to Spotify most days. I'm into the UK drill(diff to us drill). According to Spotify I listened for 6300 hrs last year and my favourite artist was headie one. I'm in his 0.0001% listeners for 2022. If you Google his wiki you'll probably come to the conclusion that if he knew a 45 year-old white male was his top listener it would f*** his street cred 🤣

Based on what you've told me I think you'd like Louis dunford, fairly unknown even in UK but amazing.

Nelek12-Dec-22 3:59

Nelek

12-Dec-22 3:59

I changed work 2 times and I doubled my income too (like den2k88).
Family grew up.
Hair in my head got reduced and a lot more white.
I started with Kempo.
...

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Single Step Debugger12-Dec-22 3:59

Single Step Debugger

12-Dec-22 3:59

pompey-boy wrote:
Still Virgins im guessing

I lost it, but I'm slowly getting it back. Also had to change my display name, because in my previous company the concepts of "discretion" was not present.

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pompey-boy27-Feb-23 14:43

27-Feb-23 14:43

Nagy?

Single Step Debugger1-Mar-23 3:51

Single Step Debugger

1-Mar-23 3:51

Nope, but I'll take that as a compliment. Big Grin | :-D

The big guy is still hanging around, I think I saw a message from him recently. I'm just someone with unpronounceable Slavic name that was active here about the same time you were.

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Mike Hankey12-Dec-22 4:22

Mike Hankey

12-Dec-22 4:22

Welcome back, miss the Soapbox!

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Roger Wright12-Dec-22 9:32

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12-Dec-22 9:32

Mike Hankey wrote:
miss the Soapbox!

My favorite place!

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Mike Hankey12-Dec-22 10:29

Mike Hankey

12-Dec-22 10:29

Roger Wright wrote:
My favorite place!

Sometimes you just gotta loosen your belt and say f*** it.

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pompey-boy27-Feb-23 14:22

27-Feb-23 14:22

I'm not Fatboy although I often got mistaken for him.

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Rage12-Dec-22 21:21

Rage

12-Dec-22 21:21

Wow, it is nice to hear from you ! Too bad you dropped software, but heck, my last productive line of code was almost 15 years ago, turns out I am better at managing others to do the job for me.
What are you playing ?

I wish you all the best with the kids, and the rest, times are hard.

pompey-boy wrote:
I used to own code project but Chris won it off me during a wild poker game in a strip club in malibu.

I thought we agreed we would not talk about this anymore Smile | :)

Curly braces

pkfox11-Dec-22 23:32

pkfox

11-Dec-22 23:32

Are you in this camp

void AFunc(){
}

or this one

void AFunc()
{
}

I'm in the second

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Jacquers11-Dec-22 23:37

Jacquers

11-Dec-22 23:37

Depends on the language.

C#:

Method()
{
}

Javascrip / Typescript:

function() {
}

honey the codewitch12-Dec-22 2:46

honey the codewitch

12-Dec-22 2:46

same. in C++ i do the latter. In C# I do the former.

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fgs196312-Dec-22 3:22

fgs1963

12-Dec-22 3:22

I have no opinion about braces one way or the other but I have to ask - Why use different styles in different languages? Given it's a choice it seems your personal sense of style would prefer one style all the time. No?

Jacquers12-Dec-22 3:37

Jacquers

12-Dec-22 3:37

I generally just use what's in the specific language's style guide. It makes it easier when different developers work on a project if we stick to those.

trønderen12-Dec-22 4:30

trønderen

12-Dec-22 4:30

Jacquers wrote:
I generally just use what's in the ~~specific language's~~ style guide.

For C/C++ there is about 42 different bracing / indentation styles fighting for dominance, so referring to "the specific language's" style, as if it was unambiguous, is meaningless.

From a logical point, I would prefer

void AFunc() {
   }

but I have never seen that promoted in any style guide.

The opening brace comes when the statement cannot be completed on the current line, indicating that a block is to follow. You should before you leave the line that you won't find a single one-statement line, but a block. I am one who think "if (day==sunday) weekend = true;" in one line is perfectly fine. "if (day==sunday) {" shows that the statement is not complete.

The following block is indented. An indentation always follows a brace. No an indentation without an opening brace; no opening brace without an indentation.

"if (day==sunday)
   {
   }

starts the indentation before the brace - that is inconsistent!
Undenting follows a closing brace. No undentation without a closing brace, no closing brace without an undentation.

"if (day==sunday)
{
   // indented code block
}

undents before reaching the closing brace - that is inconsistent.

Noone seems to agree with my logic. So I bow my head and follow whatever style guide is enforced upon me.

Switch statements mess up indentation in C/C++. One common layout is:

switch (day) {
   case (day == saturday):
   case (day == sunday):
      celebrate();
      break;
   default:
      gotowork();
      break;
   }

The case alternatives are not blocks, so they don't need braces (that is also why they need the 'break'!), but they are indented! I certainly wish they were blocks, for consistency's sake (and I really dislike the 'default is fall through'), so I prefer to make them blocks, adding braces, to justify the indentation. Very few agree with this logic, too - they are so used to seeing indents without any braces justifying it that the inconsistency doesn't bother them.

honey the codewitch12-Dec-22 5:40

honey the codewitch

12-Dec-22 5:40

Why not just put blocks in if you prefer it that way? It also makes it so you can declare variables under the case without the compiler yelling at you.

C++

case 1: {
    // do work
}
break; // could be inside

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trønderen12-Dec-22 6:37

trønderen

12-Dec-22 6:37

Yes, like I said. But I do not undent until after the closing brace, so I would indent that as well (and include the break in the block).

Why not just do it? Because you sometimes have co-workers. For some time, I was using an embedded language (CHILL) which provided the loop construct FOR EVER DO - infinite loops are not uncommon in embedded software. In a new job, programming IoT in C, in one of the modules I was responsible for, I added a "#define ever ;;" for being able to program "for (ever) {...". After a few months, this was discovered by another programmer (not working on my module), who immediately searched through the entire repository to reveal ever use of such "programming jokes", changing them all to "while (0)", deleting the #define and adding a rude remark on the edit where he requested that all programmers refrain from such unserious coding practices in the future.

In the next scrum, he brought up his discovery, reporting to everybody how he had 'cleaned up' my code. I asked if he would accept "while (true)", but no: The proper way to code an infinite loop is "while (0)", with a zero. In classical C, "true" is a #define symbol, not part of the base language, and should not be used for fundamental things such as infinite loops.

I got no support from the team at all. Not even for "while (true)".

In a code review with the same team, I was asked why I would "clutter up" the code with such unnecessary braces in switch statements. I had the same remarks when I added braces to justify the indentation in one-line conditional statements, like

if (day == sunday) {
   relax();
}

The coding standard did not allow the "relax()" to be put on the same line as the "if", but mandated the indentation. It didn't explicitly forbid the braces I would like to add - but the programming team did, telling me to remove them.

That's how it is working in a team. You have to be obedient. Don't try to make code more readable, or consistent, or safer, if it breaks with the unwritten laws of the team.