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Strangely enough, it reminds me of formal methods: a quixotic quest. I'd believe "no code"--outside of a constrained problem domain--if the input was a spec written in natural language and the output was code. Although this would be impressive, it would merely shift the problem from one of writing unambiguous, correct code to one of writing unambiguous, correct specs. But think of the benefit. A lot of literature majors and lawyers could finally find constructive work!
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Lawyers? 
They can't write unambiguous and correct English and they have special classes in it! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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From what I observe, it's more than lawyers - it's the whole "smartphone" tribe.
U know that!
So it seems to be too little too late.
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You should understand that 99% of the lawyers give the rest a bad name.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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No code is SAP. It also has some 8,000+ tables and several thousand modules and business rules to choose from. There are now industry templates, to help with the picking.
Used to be that being an SAP consultant was a ticket to financial independence.
It can also sink a company. And has.
(No code really means big cloud servers and service fees ... just like your 70's "data centers". That was "no code" too: mostly Payrolls.)
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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| You have inspired me to rename "Low Code" to something more appropriate:
Karaoke Programming
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Very good!
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Some Low Code environments can do everything .Net can do without writing a single line of code. They are very powerful.
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That's called "no code".
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Someone always has to write the "deep code", and only a fool would trust that to some unknown party (in Elbonia).
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It's turtles, all the way down!
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FTFY!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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And I thought your fix was going to be
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What! And send Berilia, Tubul, Great T'Phon, and Jerakeen to the Cat food factory?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I had no clue what you were talking about, so I had to look it up. At least he didn't relegate Ganesha to that role!
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I built a system like this years ago for a company I worked for and it worked well within the business model. It basically cut massive amounts of coding out of "vertical" applications we were building for clients and allowed my employer and our clients to make rapid changes.
It was actually pretty neat, but it wasn't entirely cookie cutter. Just most of it was.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Many years ago I worked for a building society (I think that equates to a savings and loan in USA). They had a simple solution to development. The systems analysts would talk to the business managers and figure out what was necessary for the programmers. They then wrote a detailed and fairly logical specification of what each module should do. We (the humble coders) would then turn that into assembler code (or sometimes Cobol) and build and test (using punched card batch input). Very few projects were not delivered on time, but we knew nothing of Agile, Scrum etc. Any consultant looking at that today would probably tell us why we were doing it all wrong.
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But in that era, the people doing the coding were true professionals. And they knew what they were doing.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Well some of them. I worked with a few who really did not justify the money they were being paid.
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In the early 80s, all the computer mags (no online fora then!) went all frothy over a program known as TLO - for "The Last One". This took "natural language" and generated BASIC code (what else?!) and took it's name as "The last program anyone would need to write". Programs were generated in response to user selecting actions from limited menus, and they could view a graphic flowchart as part of this process. After TLO of course we had 4GLs, then CASE tools. So low-code all feels a very familiar story...
Wikipedia's entry[^] for The Last One begins, ironically, with "The Last One is a computer program released in 1981 by the British company D.J. "AI" Systems. Now obsolete, ..."
This extract[^] from Personal Computer World is lovely reading.
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Just read today's version of Chef Sharkey's (Insider News) perfectly risen souffle of technical tidbits: gosh, an amoeba-foraging algorithm solves the old travelling-salesman problem in linear time; and, who can forget the recent advances in protein folding using ai modelling running on gonzo hardware ?
I go from euphoric to gob-smacked to homicidal, and back, as I absorb the latest innovations at the same time I try to use another MS Preview of the WinForms UI in 5.0 that crashes on the simplest test.
But, then ... (drum-roll) ... I stumble over yet another triumph like this one: [^], and, after the goose-bumps go away, I slide into blissful numbness.
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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yep you read something just absolutely awesome someone has done. And then you get to try to figure out some shumucks vba code from 15 years that your company doesn't want to give up because it works in that one excel sheet.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Many of our amazingly practical breakthrough inventions are actually just mimicking nature. Velcro is a good example.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I think of my personality as an unreliable impersonation of nature 
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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honey the codewitch wrote: Velcro is a good example.
First time I saw Velcro I was hooked!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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