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Yes, but remember how long it took to write out the coding sheets, get the cards punched, submit them for compilation, only to find you made a simple spelling mistake, or the punch girl mis-read your hieroglyphics.
Yeah, my first job was on an old IBM Series/1, which ran in this somewhat low-level language called EDL (Event Driven Language).
It was kind of assembler-like. Debugging consisted of getting a printout, on the left of which would be the actual compiled code (80A2 as an if-equals, I think).
So, you learned a lot of how memory is actually managed by getting that close to the OS. I think that helps understand (or at least be able to theorize) better about what's under the hood when using higher-level languages.
I wouldn't say I miss it, Bob. But, it was interesting to peer into the sausage factory, and I think it made me better at thinking about doing things (relatively) efficiently in more modern systems.
Fortran 77, I took a Basic class (my first programming class) before this and darn near swore off programming, as the spaghettification factor was overwhelming. A math instructor talking me into taking Fortran class and I loved it.
Motorola HC11 assembler is another one, my first assembler language. At the time Motorola had what I thought was really good documentation regarding the chips' operation and the instruction set, coded a lot of assembler back then.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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I've learned BASIC "programming" (and I use that term loosely) on a Commodore 64. Line numbering, only having the first two characters of variable names being significant, resource limitations of the hardware...the short answer would have to be "no".
I would like to have Turbo Pascal 5.5 and Turbo C on my PC again
me too (specially the turbo C), and I am not that old
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There are the languages I really liked working in at the time: Ada, VAX FORTRAN, VAX/VMS DCL (scripting), LISP, and Intel assembly language using a flat memory model. At the time I developed sufficient fluency in each of these that I could solve any programming problem you like in them, given enough time.
Interestingly, I don't feel any nostalgia to go back to programming in any of them. The amenities available now in most languages are so superior it's incredible. I know that Ada, FORTRAN, and LISP all have contemporary versions with modern facilities, but those all seem to have a "me too!" flavor to them.
Today my language of choice is C# unless there's substantial bit/byte-fiddling to be done, and then it's C++.
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