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We are re-writing our Coldfusion intranet site. We are going to use asp.net MVC, but aren't sure weather to use Core or the Standard Framework.
If you were creating a new site today, which would you use?
We are more comfortable with the Standard Framework and are widows shop so cross platform isn't a major concern. The comfort mostly comes from product maturity and easily finding support for issues.
That being said, it sounds like Core is faster and where Microsoft is focusing its development efforts.
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So, according to .NET Standard - Demystifying .NET Core and .NET Standard | Microsoft Docs[^]
The brief summary of the two are:
.NET Core: Used for building cross-platform console apps and ASP.NET Core Web apps and cloud services.
.NET Standard: Used for building libraries that can be referenced from all .NET implementations, such as .NET Framework, .NET Core and Xamarin.
So given that you're writing an ASP.NET application, I'd go for .NET Core, regardless of whether you're wanting to support cross-platform or not, as you're not really writing a library.
Hope that helps!
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We're doing something similar - going from ASP.Net Web Forms to MVC5.
Even though our apps will be "on the cloud*, we are sticking with .Net Framework. Web apps don't need to be "cross-platform", IMHO, especially in an all-Windows shop.
Even if we do switch over to core in the future, it should be fairly easy to do - if you believe Microsoft's propaganda...
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When you say "Standard Framework" are you referring to .NET Standard (the common denominator between .NET, .NET Core, Mono and Xamarin) or do you mean "the standard .NET that we've known for nearly two decades"?
If you're talking about .NET Standard, it's not a runtime so you can't write an application in it, only libraries.
In that case you clearly need .NET Core with perhaps .NET Standard libraries.
If you're talking about good old .NET, I'd still recommend .NET Core.
Personally, I've found moving from .NET to .NET Core very intuitive.
Dependency Injection comes out of the box, configuration files work with standard JSON (which allows nesting) and can be easily (strong typed) injected into your application.
Entity Framework Core has most of the regular EF and I've found it pretty easy to work with (code first).
If you're going for some basic CRUD stuff Razor Pages are fairly easy and intuitive without all the boiler plate of MVC.
If you're going for MVC I think they streamlined it a bit. No more Controller and ApiController, just one Controller and (JSON) API or HTML, it doesn't really matter anymore.
Considering Microsoft is continuing development for .NET Core and not the .NET Framework, it's a clear winner for me, .NET Core! 
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My bad, I was talking about good old .NET.
In the test projects we made, working with MVC was very similar in each environment.
Thanks for you input!
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Is a sad coffee a Despresso?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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from a civet cat that just got "fixed"?
this internet has become nothing but fake news.
... time to fix it, time to get back to the fax!
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Speaking off decaf, I'd bean thinking about it and could say there are a latte reasons to think so.
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Yes, apparently it's bean brewing for a while now.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I Doppio that
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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I'm not so sure I want a bunch of kids playing Ghostbusters. I could probably have got on board with 17-18 (late high school) at a push, but they just seem too young.
It's fine if they wan't to target the younger audience, and I am sure the film will be "ok" too. Just not quite what I had hoped for.
Also wasn't too impressed by the attempts at humour in the trailer. Nothing worse than a so-called comedy that isn't funny - so I hope it doesn't end up being that.
Expected rating: 6/10
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Well ... you say that, but it has Mike from Stranger Things, and that was pretty damn good! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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musefan wrote: so-called comedy
Based on the trailer I did not get the impression that they were going for a comedy.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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instead of actors let's use kids so we can do even cornier jokes!
... and it'll be more 'awwww, so sweet,' when they win.
nah, well maybe for grankids but otherwise a definite nah.
this internet has become nothing but fake news.
... time to fix it, time to get back to the fax!
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Looks very Goonies'ish to me. I like it! 
I'll definitely download it and watch it for free go see it in the theater... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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That just looks like Stranger Things season 3!
And I kind of liked the 2016 Ghostbusters 
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So there's this thing in .NET called the "default binder" which has methods like BindToMethod() and BindToProperty().
What it does is it tells .NET how to resolve things like overloaded methods and choose which one is appropriate based on the passed in arguments.
Reflection uses it underneath Type.InvokeMember() and the C# compiler (as well as other compilers) almost certainly use it to help with choosing what methods to bind to (on external types) within a method/property group.
The docs use words like "generally". I wish I was joking. As in generally it only does widening conversions on parameters.
I don't care about generally. I care about specifics, because I have to emulate it for my own non-compiled types.
 it's off to the reference source (again)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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overloads with "params"
[insert evil laugh here] ?
this internet has become nothing but fake news.
... time to fix it, time to get back to the fax!
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It handles it. Fortunately in this case the CodeDOM doesn't support it so I don't have to emulate it.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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LOC = lines of code
Narrator is speaking about the Kemeny [^] who invented BASIC.
Quote: Probably thought to himself, "I bet I could write a compiler." You know a compiler is a big program: 3,000 lines of code.
From the youTube video about the Birth of the BASIC computer language...
Birth of BASIC - YouTube[^]
Oh, how the times have a changed! 
NPM, anyone? 
modified 3hrs 20mins ago.
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Overweight
Six = over
Stone = weight
Thought it was easy
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Very British 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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