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I woke up and had an email saying a book I co-authored was FINALLY published after a year delay! (don't worry, we revised it so it's not a year behind)
So that's pretty awesome.
Because it was supposed to be released a year ago I already did a book presentation in January 
This afternoon I went for the AZ-301 exam, Azure Architect Design.
I passed, and with my AZ-300 exam that I passed two weeks ago I can now officially call myself an Azure Solutions Architect 
Then I got a call from my dad, who got a call from someone he used to work with who thought about me, who got a call from a customer...
Long story short, I'm calling a company tomorrow (who is a former customer from a previous employer) who may or may not need my services, possibly leaving me with a new customer.
Of course it's very premature to say anything about it, but it's nice to know my name is out there and people think about me
So did nothing go wrong today?
Unfortunately, I got wet in the rain and I spent most of my day wearing wet pants, being cold and having a ridiculous hair cut 
Ah well, I'm dry and warm now so all's well that ends well
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May I suggest a new name for you here on CodeProject:
Mr.Sunshine
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I thought "sunshine" is a kind of insult on this forum? 
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Not if you are Dutch, words have different meaning for us Dutch (if any at all) 
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Careful what you say about the Dutch. My mother was from Dutch extraction, my father from German. When I tell people that, they are inclined to roll their eyes  and respond like: "That explains a lot". I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
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Did some Googling, and it seems to have mostly negative meanings 
Well another English lesson learned ...
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Top it off with dinner at Milliways?
It
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Sander Rossel wrote: I'm dry and warm now so all's well that ends well
But you still have the ridiculous haircut?
/ravi
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I want a collar like that! 
/ravi
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We are re-writing our Coldfusion intranet site. We are going to use asp.net MVC, but aren't sure weather to use Core or the Standard Framework.
If you were creating a new site today, which would you use?
We are more comfortable with the Standard Framework and are widows shop so cross platform isn't a major concern. The comfort mostly comes from product maturity and easily finding support for issues.
That being said, it sounds like Core is faster and where Microsoft is focusing its development efforts.
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So, according to .NET Standard - Demystifying .NET Core and .NET Standard | Microsoft Docs[^]
The brief summary of the two are:
.NET Core: Used for building cross-platform console apps and ASP.NET Core Web apps and cloud services.
.NET Standard: Used for building libraries that can be referenced from all .NET implementations, such as .NET Framework, .NET Core and Xamarin.
So given that you're writing an ASP.NET application, I'd go for .NET Core, regardless of whether you're wanting to support cross-platform or not, as you're not really writing a library.
Hope that helps!
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We're doing something similar - going from ASP.Net Web Forms to MVC5.
Even though our apps will be "on the cloud*, we are sticking with .Net Framework. Web apps don't need to be "cross-platform", IMHO, especially in an all-Windows shop.
Even if we do switch over to core in the future, it should be fairly easy to do - if you believe Microsoft's propaganda...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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When you say "Standard Framework" are you referring to .NET Standard (the common denominator between .NET, .NET Core, Mono and Xamarin) or do you mean "the standard .NET that we've known for nearly two decades"?
If you're talking about .NET Standard, it's not a runtime so you can't write an application in it, only libraries.
In that case you clearly need .NET Core with perhaps .NET Standard libraries.
If you're talking about good old .NET, I'd still recommend .NET Core.
Personally, I've found moving from .NET to .NET Core very intuitive.
Dependency Injection comes out of the box, configuration files work with standard JSON (which allows nesting) and can be easily (strong typed) injected into your application.
Entity Framework Core has most of the regular EF and I've found it pretty easy to work with (code first).
If you're going for some basic CRUD stuff Razor Pages are fairly easy and intuitive without all the boiler plate of MVC.
If you're going for MVC I think they streamlined it a bit. No more Controller and ApiController, just one Controller and (JSON) API or HTML, it doesn't really matter anymore.
Considering Microsoft is continuing development for .NET Core and not the .NET Framework, it's a clear winner for me, .NET Core! 
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My bad, I was talking about good old .NET.
In the test projects we made, working with MVC was very similar in each environment.
Thanks for you input!
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I have been doing a mix of the two; my non-public service architecture is running on .Core, while my public sites are running on the full Framework.
Eventually I'll migrate to Core for the front-ends, but I have quite a few HttpModules that need conversion to Middle Ware; and that has been a bumpy path.
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Is a sad coffee a Despresso?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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from a civet cat that just got "fixed"?
this internet has become nothing but fake news.
... time to fix it, time to get back to the fax!
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Speaking off decaf, I'd bean thinking about it and could say there are a latte reasons to think so.
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Yes, apparently it's bean brewing for a while now.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I Doppio that
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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