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W Balboos, GHB15-Sep-11 1:49
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Trolling - good point - now you can safely ignore anything that you find disturbing to your personalized versions of reality.

The bombings (of civilians) were rare? How quickly you (choose to) forget. They were an all too frequent occurrence. The rocket attacks being (at the time) more than a rare occurrence. They occur now because the Israelis were foolish enough to clear out of Gaza (and for nothing in return, as a symbolic gesture, in hopes of initiating honest negotiations).

Since you bring up 'illegal' settlements - perhaps you ought to take note that there are no recognized borders, but rather, armistice lines, including the 1967 borders, and even the pre-1967 borders. And, as noted earlier, no one screamed 'occupier' when Jordan had the land for decades. No one ever considered these people a national entity until is was convenient to use them as cannon fodder when Egypt made piece (repeat).

BobJanova wrote:
The Israeli army kills Palestinians (and Lebanese on occasion) as a matter of course;
That ever amazing logic - you shoot armed people trying to kill you. You shoot people setting up rockets to shoot at your citizens, you shoot people wrapped in explosives looking for a crowd of people to kill, and most important of all, in my opinion, you locate and exterminate the vermin that send them: wherever they hide.

BobJanova wrote:
A more reasonable comparison would be the IRA, though they were less aggressive than some Islamic groups, and we never sent military forces, bombed cities or assassinated people outside our borders (instead cooperating with the state from which they were originating).

A rather English point of view: Ireland was not your borders, but an obviously occupied state. You had troops on the ground (or were they imposters). There's not an Irishman I've met who doesn't know you're occupiers of what you refer to as Northern Ireland. And, of course, you should remove those English who are nothing less than occupiers in the area, and who you use as proxies as counterfeits for local support. Was that IRA comment you included in you post as bait for me? The fact is that you can't smell your own.

The analogy of blitz:Dresden vs. Gaza-rockets:Gaza-Siege still stands firm - with the notable difference that the Israelis leafleted the areas to try to minimize civilian casualties. Tens of thousands of dead in the non-Military city Dresden vs. hundreds in the source of the rocket attacks by terrorists who deliberately attack with civilians in the area? You're may be right: there is no comparison. What is apparent that, even in adverse conditions, so far as is possible, Israelis do their best to take the moral high ground.

There is no doubt that innocents were killed - but then, when you shoot rockets from next to a school house, isn't that the real hope? Get more (of your) sympathy with tragic photos? And never do you ask why they not only billet amongst civilians but make it a point to attack from their midst. Face it: Hamas/Hezbollah make good media capital on each human shield that get killed.

Despite your opening, with what you imply are a peace-loving Hamas, I will not label you a troll. Between BBC World reports and short wave news, I know just where you are coming from. Goebbels new well that if you keep repeating a lie, no matter how absurd, it will come to be believed. You are a true believer.

I'll repeat this as often as necessary, for it defines succinctly the Middle East situation:
    The day the Arabs lay down their weapons, peace with Israel will break out immediately.
    The day Israel lays down its weapons, there will be genocide.




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