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Much of my professional software design/implementation career was filled with the necessity to milk the last smidgen of performance out of some code. The environment was based on DEC PDP-10 processors (KL series) in a commercial time-sharing setting (CompuServe). For the most part, we used a language called BLISS, which was truly a magnificent implementation language. Its optimizer produced code that was probably 99% as good as I could do by "hand". This, coupled with something I've not seen elsewhere in a programming language, lexical processing, was the foundation of a great deal of CompuServe's CIS software. One of my areas involved the error-correcting protocols used for file upload/download. The most used protocol, B Plus, was the cornerstone of what was called HMI, Host Micro Interface. This protocol performed so well that it earned me the "honor" of frequent verbal battles with the OS developers because a B Plus data transfer would hit the "sweet spot" in performnce. This means that by the time a packet was finished being transmitted, the acknowledgement of the previous packet would already be waiting, and several packets could usually be sent in one time-slice. Fun stuff!

Natural language processing is something I often pondered, with no real break throughs. I always believed that a different kind of memory access was needed, something akin to the current CPU chips (Pentium) with their cache memory. The cache is a marvel of design. If that technology was to be extended to what I term "content addressable memory", where say a word fetches data by using the actual numeric letter value is the "address" presented to be found. But this is only a beginning of the processing utilized by the human brain.

I think that neural network programming might open the door to fast cognitive processing, but we're a loooong way from anything practical along these lines.

Way back, the trio of Newel, Simon and Shaw were among the first to contemplate what they termed "Information Processing". One of them said, "The problem with trying to teach a computer to understand natural language is that so few of we humans understand it to begin with." After fifty some years, the situation really hasn't progressed all that much.
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