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You know, we joke about this kind of thing but I'm working in a current version of another "development environment"[^] where adding a line of code into a script requires a double-click or drag and drop.
And this thing has certifications and a developer network as well.
Are you sure it "has certifications" and not it is "certified [as insane]"
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
I also complain about the new design, and even posted the list of the links that will make VS2012 look like VS2010. but after a while I like VS2012 better, specially after installing Windows 8. give it some time...
I like the fact that 2012 feels much faster than 2010, but I doubt that's because they made the UI near-monochrome.
That being said, I find it noticeably more difficult to use for two related reasons. One, I'm not a massive user of keyboard shortcuts. I use the frequent ones (saving files, cut/paste lines of code, etc.), but for the stuff I don't use on a daily basis? I'm not filling up my memory buffer with those shortcuts. Which means when I need to do one of those rare things, I have to hunt for an icon on a toolbar. At a resolution of 2560x1440 with my eyesight, color became a major identifying factor for those icons.
It's just as bad, maybe worse than 2010. So I'm still working with VS 2008 (on windows 8 pro)..
Some features are simply broken/not working in VS 2010-2012. The loss of productivity when trying to use 2012 is just ridiculous. And believe me, I tried hard, and still try on occasion; but always end up doing internet searches to find out WHY those features don't work. Mainly Edit & Continue, which lost all it's purpose from 2010 and up.
I find 2012 to be tolerable now. Once I added the theme editor extension, removed the loud menus, and added a couple extensions that I've long been dependent of in VS2010. Basically, made 2012 act and feel a little more like 2010..
As mentioned, the SQL integration is convenient. The other little touches and improvements to intellisense are welcome. The bland icons with their afterthought colors I could live without but it's not nearly the nails on a chalkboard that the loud menus became for me. The icons aren't as lame when your not blasted with screenfuls of drab grays and white.
Once you get past the distraction of all the GUI changes made for their own agenda for our own benefit, I accept it as a fair toolbox upgrade for writing code for the next dead in 2-5 years technology. It has worked well for my projects so far and I've mitigated most of the my productivity killing distractions. I look forward
I still see it as change for the sake of change from the softies. The Windows, Office, Mobile teams all got drastic UI changes (for better or worse) so the VS team I'm sure was pressured to change.. Too bad that's the best they could come up with. VS2016 will just be the re-branded version of TouchDevelop.
I think everyone's complaints about Visual Studio 2012 are somewhat over the top. VS 2012 is fine and if the only thing people have to complain about are the lack of color and the capitalized headings than that is pretty small-time.
Maybe the complainers should all work with the tools in the Java world. Than they would have something to complain about...
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Well, I mean it might (true on any given day the Earth exists), but it is less likely than me getting into a three way with Selma Hayek & Natalie Portman for example, which is pretty remote, sadly. [Edit]
This might be misconstrued that I'd prefer a three-way with Natalie Portman and Selma Hayek than for the world to continue. It's a close run thing, but on the whole I'd have to opt for the world not ending, though I'd prefer the win-win situation of the former happening and the latter not, in case you are in a position to arrange it.