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The problem wasn't that a journalist addressed a "her" as "him". It was that the journalist claimed that the transgendered person should not return to that same school at all, because it was just too traumatizing for the children. That's like saying it's OK to be a programmer and it's okay to change your profession to be an architect, but don't work at the same employer because your coworkers might be distraught at observing the transition. Here are some extracts from Richard's article:

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Children as young as seven aren’t equipped to compute this kind of information. Pre-pubescent boys and girls haven’t even had the chance to come to terms with the changes in their own bodies. Why should they be forced to deal with the news that a male teacher they have always known as Mr Upton will henceforth be a woman called Miss Meadows? Anyway, why not Miss Upton?

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The school shouldn’t be allowed to elevate its ‘commitment to diversity and equality’ above its duty of care to its pupils and their parents.

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Let them enjoy their childhood. They will lose their innocence soon enough.

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By insisting on returning to St Mary Magdalen’s, he is putting his own selfish needs ahead of the well-being of the children he has taught for the past few years.

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It would have been easy for him to disappear quietly at Christmas, have the operation and then return to work as ‘Miss Meadows’ at another school on the other side of town in September. No-one would have been any the wiser.


So, the journalist doesn't want to confuse children, thinks the school isn't caring for the children (AND parents... WTF, why do parents need caring for?), thinks children will lose their innocence (uh, what), believes it's selfish to want to keep a job, and thinks the solution is for any gender reassignment to also include a new job in a new town.

This is not about pronouns. It's about people minding their own business and letting others live as they please.

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