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Christian Graus wrote:
Don't let any framework generate code for you, unless you understand exactly what it's doing and how.


I'd vote you up for that alone, but you've got enough rep already Wink | ;)

I was watching some of our code executing the other day - the output window was scrolling through all of generated sql calls as a window opened. I seriously could not believe the crap that was being generated hundreds (well, OK, about 50 or 60) separate SQL select statements run to get data to populate a view with two or three combos.

If written as SPs it would have been less than half a dozen database calls (and if I had my way most of it would have been cached and not required DB access at all, but that's just me!)

I think some of the devs have heard the "optimise later" mantra and understood it as meaning "shove together any old crap to get it working, and we can optimise it later"
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011

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(That's an 'M')

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