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Well now look, you boys don't want to go messin' around some old house. Those things is dangerous. You're liable to get hurt. You don't want to go fooling around other folks' property. If some folks don't like it... they don't mind showing you.
Good thing I didn't write the one I thought of first, because then I would have broken the rules...
Anyway, I seem to recall that this is what John said to the IRS people when they knocked on his door in search of somebody to audit...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
Why Google test. Here is a Google test. Once they want to post a question in QA just put popup a message dialogue saying this: "Do you know what Google does?" And in a red button marked with a X put the yes button. And in a green tick button put the No. Only when they tick yes can they proceed other wise just link them to Google.
In a lot of ways, that would be an improvement: focus the site back on being about Quality rather than Quantity.
I still feel (as did Luc Pattyn) that QA was a mistake - an attempt to "out-SO" SO which detracted from the programming forums and the article quality and has become largely a "do my homework" hangout. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of members holding down full time jobs purely by posting QA questions!
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
Even I have a 7 year old account I didn't used it really for over 6 years so I can't remember how it was before QA, but will happy to give a chance CP without QA...
holding down full time jobs purely by posting QA questions
Yes, I can see that. To be true I was tempted in the last few weeks to open an other account and send some basic (and not so basic) MVC (I'm in a process of design using MVC) questions just for fun, but hold myself...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
1) Even homework questions are getting answered.
2) It happens sometime that OP posted off topic post and we suggest the right forum using comment. In that case, OP can delete the question and post it over the right forum. But what happens is, some members (believe me, being a part of rep hunting clearly) posts something as a solution and hence even if OP wants, he/she can't delete that question. And if OP is a newbie, the solution will get accepted which is totally misleading as per as QA is concerned.
3) There are some members who copies the title of the post, paste it in Google and post first N links as answer. And thats their only pattern. IMO, it won't add much value to CP just because it can't be the case all the time that OP failed to search it using one of the search engines.
There are thousands of views regarding this, but the ultimate solution can be achieved only through some strict actions.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad
Those who currently have delete priviliges could easily go wild and just keep clearing out dross.
I don't think simply closing the questions is sufficient either. There needs to be a mechanism where the originator learns why the questions have been closed etc.
Perhaps an imporved entry form with more descriptive section headers;
Title: provide a brief summary of the problem
Tags: tag the relevant language / technologies / platform you are using e.g. c# Windows SQL
Question or Problem: What is it you are trying to achieve, what have you tried so far. Include any relevant code snippet and and error messages that you may have recevied.
The character count box characters remaining rather than counting up.
Also still not convinced on the layout of the qs and solutions / comments etc. just doesn't feel right.
Also still not convinced on the layout of the qs and solutions / comments etc. just doesn't feel right
I agree. I want to completely revamp it.
One thing (not related to layout) that I was thinking about was giving users - almost all users - the ability to
- retag easily
- edit more easily (inline probably)
- Mark as "Needs some lovin'".
The final one is the important one and it would not be a close button, it would be a "flag me" button that hides this question from casual users but makes it available (and clearly marked) to those who have the status to edit them, and to those who otherwise haven't chosen to hide flagged questions.
We clear out the debris quickly for the casual user / grumpy old developers and we have a dedicated queue of questions that either get cleaned up and posted or get formally kicked off the island.
I notice that you have changed the TAG to look like a tag. Couple of comments about that;
1) I feel the colour of the no hover tag being white with the grey border just looks too dull, I would think that a very pale version of the 'hover' colour would bring more emphasis without distracting the user.
2) The "See More:" isn't required (in my opinion). All most all sites that use tags have clickable tags and users who use this site should have the underpinning knowledge to think at least to hover over with a mouse to see if they are clickable or natually would try and click them anyway if they were looking for other related stuff. Given they would have slightly more emphasis if #1 was done, the hover effect is sufficient feedback.
Increased mobile development presence = a move away from MS centric thinking (that will take time, certainly)
I don't think workspaces or TV were a bad idea but I think they would be better marketed under a completely different banner. If I had been starting a new project at home, I would have used workspaces, but that didn't eventuate (I guess I should be glad I didn't, now!) Same with TV - I was thinking about enhancing my Android articles with some video, and where better to host it?
On the API front- why? What functionality to you want to provide the CP itself doesn't (or is it that you could do it better?) The thing with an API is, how are CP going to make money out of it?
I'd love to write an app that posts 'codez pleaz' to Q&A - but I'm not sure Chris et al would like that!
An offline article editor would be good - but I don't find the existing online one too bad. Image editing online? Why? Everyone has access to better tools to edit images than would be provided online, surely?
I'd like to see a regular CP Crossword (Hey! Chris! You reading this? Remember about three years ago you said you'd get back to me ) with prizes,and a guarantee that DD wont write the clues.
I love the idea of the article competitions - I'd like to see that continue.
Something in Q&A - I don't know what, but I just pretty much keep away these days - between the crappy questions and the snarky answers it's an unpleasant place to be!
Mobile - get the site working on mobile so I can respond to posts on the train.