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GeneralRe: Speaking of C++ Pin
ExcellentOrg26-Aug-18 21:44
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GeneralGot to read those licenses Pin
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Sander Rossel25-Aug-18 6:28
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jschell wrote:
Simple - don't use them.
The problem here is often that the author of the code has no clue about licenses or copyright either.
They'll create a repository on GitHub and assume it's now open source.
jschell wrote:
The scenario is as follows.
- You get sued (civil case) because it was decided that you were violating a license.
But how would they know that in the first place?
In my eight years in the industry, I've never seen a code audit.
And even if there is an audit, are they going to check all of our repositories, all with thousands of dependencies?
Or only the ones we consciously downloaded, like jQuery and Angular?

And what happens if I use library x that has an MIT license, but library x uses library y which has a less permissive license and so library x isn't really MIT, but something else.
Should I check if library x is really MIT or if they are in violation with any of their dependencies?
When I download and use library x I also (often unknowingly) download and use library y and so I'm restricted by their license, which I don't know about because the authors of library x are lying to me.
I have no idea how often this happens (because I never check the thousands of dependencies in the libraries I use), but I can imagine this is happening on a rather large scale.

I'm not saying we should all ignore licenses, but I can see how many people have no idea what to do.
Especially if you're not really aware of licensing in the first place.
If it's on the internet and you can download and use it (through npm, NuGet, Maven...) it's free, right?
Simply put, we're programmers, not lawyers.

It's like the law says "every citizen should know the law" (so "I didn't know" isn't a valid excuse in court).
If it was that easy we didn't need lawyers, judges, and four to five-year college studies.

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GeneralDoes C++ finally have enough features to make memory leaks a ... memory? Pin
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