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dandy7212-Mar-19 5:32
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obermd wrote:
running sudo is the correct thing to do. Linux was derived from a multi-user environment and allowing any random user to shutdown the OS is not a good thing to do


I agree entirely. I was just pointing out the inconsistency.

obermd wrote:
The reason the console GUI shutdown works without sudo is because there is an underlying assumption that if you're using the console GUI then you're running in single user mode


That's probably the best response I've seen yet this thread. I wouldn't suggest however this is a great assumption to make.

obermd wrote:
I suspect the remote X-Windows GUI will require sudo to operate,


Maybe it does, I haven't tried. I suspect you're right.

obermd wrote:
just like Windows "hiding" the shutdown option when using RDP to connect to a remote system.


It's inconsistent for sure (across the multiple versions of Windows, and workstation- vs server versions), and I know I've seen policies to display/remove the option. But now that you bring this up, when you do have the option, Windows does warn you if you're about to do a shutdown and it knows other users are currently logged in. Given that's the case, I have to wonder why a UI-initiated shutdown request wouldn't do the same on Linux. It could be based on the assumption you put forth, but then, doing the check and putting up a warning as Windows does seems like a no-brainer to me.

All this to say...none of this is a "flaw" and I'm sure it's a deliberate design decision. And it'd be interesting to read the arguments that have been made on either side.
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