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I don't.
Some languages - like C# - are strongly typed for a reason: to catch errors early. Firstly, by catching type conversions at compile time means that the code does exactly what you wanted, or it doesn't compile. Secondly, by making you explicitly convert things like user input to the type you want and providing exceptions (or "failed" responses as appropriate) if the user input doesn't match up.

The global implicit typing you seem to prefer leads to errors because the compiler has to "guess" what you wanted - and that means that bad data gets into the system undetected. And until you've had to unpick a 100,000 row DB to try and fix dates that are entered as dd-MM-yy and MM-dd-YY you probably don't realise just how much of a PITA that is.

And then there is the "pointer problem": a pointer to a ASCII char is a pointer to a byte, but a Unicode character is a pointer to a word. You can - by casting - explicitly convert a byte pointer to a word pointer but that doesn't change the underlying data, and it means that half the data accesses aren't going to work properly, because the byte pointer can be "half way up" a word value.

And strong typing (in C#, if not in C or C++) also eliminates your "=" vs "==" in most cases because the result is not a bool so it can't be used in an conditional. You can set the C or C++ compiler to give warnings or errors when you type it wrong , but it is valid because being old languages they don't have a native boolean value: any nonzero value is "true".

You want to get away from the complexity and want consistent declarations? Try C# ... (but hurry, it's getting complicated as well now).
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