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I kind of disagree about C++. I think it's shockingly elegant language.

The main issue is lack of memory management, but there's no way to do that without fundamentally changing what C++ is even used for.

The thing about C++ is it is fantastically flexible. And horribly flexible. They are the same thing only depending on whether the language is doing what you want or not. =)

You *could* use something like the boehm collector in your projects but again that's 3rd party.

But frankly, as long as you code with STL and the standard library, that's "good enough" for most purposes.

The way I prefer to think about C++ is it's "not even a language" - C++ & the STL and standard library are what it take to make a full language.

The upside is flexibility (you don't have to use those libs, you can make your own, which is really useful if you're creating the libs themselves or if you're writing systems code or embedded code)

The tradeoff is complexity. C++ without the STL and standard libraries is an entirely different animal than C++ with them.

Frankly, Accelerated C++ by Barbara Moo and Andrew Koenig is the first book someone should get acquainted with C++ with. It helps.
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