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The problem with certs for specific technologies (or versions of said technologies) is the rapid deprication if those technologies. It's IMPOSSIBLE to keep up.

Furthermore, having a cert don't mean sh*t. Anybody can pass a cert test, but only EXPERIENCE builds your skill set. If you're lucky, the latest and greatest dev tech will be easy to migrate to (going from MVC4 to MVC5). However, going from dekstop dev to web dev requires a pretty major re-think of how things happen in the target environment, and at that point, you have to have highly developed forensic, debugging, and tool skills to succede. Hopefully, you'll be using a language you're familiar with, but true skill and insite as a programmer is the only way you'll survive in that environment.

Don't bother telling me about your certifications. Show me how your code.

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One of the devs on my team came in this morning describing the CSSLP class they're taking (contractors - me - aren't allowed to take the same class), and he said the instructor told them that the test writers and study guide writes only meet every few years. YEARS!? The company's study materials cost an arm and a leg, and they're YEARS behind the current tests. How can they sell this kinda crap to the government?! Even better - why is the government accepting this situation with no push-back!?
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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