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GeneralRe: How are you meant to do Microsoft certifications if the books and material aren't available? Pin
Simon P Stevens17-Apr-19 22:16
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Simon P Stevens wrote:
Or is the thing they are trying to tell me that the exams are being deprecated soon hence
Consider the face-in-their-phone crowd coming in behind you - they're heavily adapted to not learning since they can 'look it up on their phone' - so, no sense alienating them.

As for certs - you are probably aware that a substantial number of professional programmers never to a computer science course in college - have a degree (if any) in something else.

Depending upon the type of coding, the real value added could just be a combination of experience and innate talent. The exams will show the possibility that a person has, at the least, been exposed to the material - but do you want, say, a carpenter who's read all the books on carpentry and woodworking to work on your house? "Ooops" is, alas, an important and necessary teacher.

Meanwhile - those with the money that hire us often have their notion as to importance based upon articles they read about "The Latest and the Greatest".


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