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m4444 wrote:
Do you think something like this is bullshit then?
How to become a developer and get your first job as quickly as possible[^]
Yes. SEO doesn't belong in a devs portfolio, and building a basic website is a skill lots of people have, even those who aren't fulltime devs.

To a dev, debugging-knowledge is not a bonus, it is a requirement. If you can't debug, you're basically working blindfolded.

m4444 wrote:
Essentially he says to become a "junior web developer" first
That's a very large title for someone who is limited to HTML, CSS and bootstrap.

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and to learn "learn.freecodecamp.org" (HTML, CSS, JavaScript), then learn Git, then vscode/ codepen ... then build a portfolio, add it to your CV, and start applying (and keep learning while applying for jobs).
HTML and CSS aren't programming languages. So, basically they tell you to make a very basic website, with only the JavaScript part being actual programming.

Lots of people who have learned JavaScript as a hobby. They created lots of free JavaScript libraries, of varying qualities. Some of them will have made the move to professional programming.

m4444 wrote:
I guess a difference is that he has an engineering degree, which seems to be kind of related to IT?
I know too many people with an IT-degree who can't tell the difference between JavaScript and C#. The article represent the "what you need" section too much as a job-offering, where you need to be interested in the latest frameworks, SEO and having wordpress as a desired skill. To me, it doesn't read like a roadmap to becoming a dev, but more something a recruiter would list as a profile. Meaning 50% fluff Smile | :)

Again, lots of people made the move to a paid programming job, coming from VB6 or webdesign. If they can, so can you - just don't expect it to be an easy ride.

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Where as my degree in architecture is more about design...
I don't have one. Not really required in IT.
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