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Rent-a-coder was a very large site and market leader for a while. I was top-ranked UK-based developer on there, and got well over a hundred contracts. It was later taken over by vWorker and then Freelancer.com. Freelancer is virtually useless as there seems to be no way to contact a buyer with any clarifications prior to making a final bid. So even if they give a detailed spec (which they never do), but omit to mention that it has to run on version x.y.z of whatever tool and you can only deliver version a.b.c. then you're stuffed, they'll give you a low rating and you'll never work again.

PeoplePerHour.com is better, but more recently trying to clarify tasks with the seller has become difficult, and there's no way to review a buyer's feedback and ratings until after a bid, so you're working completely blind and again could fall into the trap of working with a lousy buyer and recking your reputation.

Reputation is absolutely what it's all about; with hundreds of thousands of workers available, it's absolutely essential that you get a perfect score each and every job. You need to be able to not just do a fantastic job 100% of the time, but also convince your client that what you've delivered is exactly what they wanted, so they give you that perfect score and good written feedback. For one thing, that also means replying to EVERY message within a couple of hours MAX, regardless of time of day or day of week, or some buyers will downrate you for being "slow to respond". Once you've started building your reputation, forget about competing on price - you will NEVER succeed that way. Your bids need to be near-perfect and you need to be on the right job at the right time to be first to bid. The biggest problem is getting the first handful of jobs to get reputation in the first place; you'll need an outstanding portfolio off-site, remarkable bid-writing skills, and an enormous amount of luck. To reduce the amount of luck you need, you'll need to be able to turn your hand - confidently - to a very wide range of tasks, and have access to every product and version you can even vaguely claim to know.

This is all very negative - and it's meant to be. There are too many players in the market (both websites and developers) and the quality has plummeted. Quality of jobs, that is. Far too many are along the lines of (and I quote verbatim here) "I want a website a bit like a mix of eBay and Google. Willing to pay up to $250. No time wasters please". That was literally the sum total of the spec, but it had several dozen "experts" bidding on it within minutes.

Although negative, the potential is - or was - enormous. As mentioned above I did scores of jobs via Rent-A-Coder and was very highly ranked, earning good money on very interesting and varied projects, working as much, and when, I wanted. When I switched to PeoplePerHour, my first project ($200 for a couple of hours' Javascript work) led to an ongoing relationship with the buyer over the course of several years. With my help the client became very successful indeed, and was paying a 5-figure sum each month as a retainer, plus introducing me to his associates several of whom put major projects my way. As a result I was able to semi-retire several years early and no longer need to trawl the auction sites. (I have also had a number of other "large" clients through the auction sites who have more than equalled the financial rewards of more traditional freelancing arrangements).

Do NOT go this route if you're dependent on the income. If you want to get some fantastic experience across other tech and industries, and be in with a small chance of getting lucky, then by all means use the sites as an extra income. Just don't expect them to even cover the subscription fees to CodeProject. Laugh | :laugh:
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