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Fabio Franco7-Oct-19 1:31
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There is a very big difference about confidence and arrogance. I am never going to hire an arrogant, because as good as they think they are, they usually do more harm than good.

An arrogant developer does not listen to others, it's toxic for the team and think they are better than anyone else and think they are always right, despite have lots of similarly intelligent minds counter arguing.

So if you think you're good enough and have concrete and clear arguments to defend your point of view (instead of saying because I say so) during brainstorming, discussions and disagreements, then yes, I would love to hire you (not that I am hiring anyone now).

Eddy Vluggen wrote:
If you think you can find someone better, then please do.

There is no such thing as look for someone that is the best. When I look for candidates I look for someone that knows his stuff, that can work well in a team, that can acknowledge that there may be someone better than him in one particular area of expertise. Nowadays if you're only a developer the best you can be is mediocre. It's not only about programming. Anyone can learn to program and the "challenge" as you say, is not there.

Eddy Vluggen wrote:
it's mostly a boring thing

If you think it's boring, why are you doing it? Most developers I know say it's fun. It does not need to be a challenge to be fun.

Challenge comes when you need to transform something complex into something simple and it is a multi-disciplinary resolution. It starts with problem or use case that is very complex and you engineer it to make it simple for everyone involved: The stakeholders and the development team (which may include decisions on logical, solution and topological architecture).

Now it bottles down to how can you add the most value on delivering a secure, tested, simple and accurate solution for the problem at hand. How can you help deliver the most value to the customer. It's important at this point to not be "arrogant" and think you know best than everyone combined, but rather be "confident" to propose and express your ideas and point of view in away that you will not only bring the team on board but will extract the best value from the it and help deliver the best solution as the result of a combined effort.

To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson


Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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