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Maybe because they knew of other languages than C/C++ Smile | :)

On the serious side: Newly educated Masters of today know "nothing" about langugages that are not of "the C class". If you show them something like APL, they look upon it like something from a fantasy world, cannot fathom how you can solve a problem in such a language.

Or a little closer to the C class: If you show them that in Pascal, you need not enclose conditions in parentheses, you can test "if x > 5" like we would write it in ordinary prose text; they as surprised how you can know that it is a condition when it is not parenthesized. "The standard model" uses parentheses.

"The standard model" prescibes that array indexes run from zero, and are integers. You show them a Pascal array summerMonths: array[may..august], and they worry about element zero of the array, where is that in all of this.

"The standard model" says that characters and enums "really" are integers, noting else. So a language that doesn't let you divide 'B' by 2 to get an exclamation mark, or multiply february with 3 to get april, breaks with the standard model.

Show them CHILL where you need not pre-announce that there is an exception handler. But "the standard model" requires a "try" and enclosing the block in braces! How can you know the scope of the exception handler? The 'block' to which it is attached? But isn't that what the braces do, delimit the block, so how can you avoid the braces?

And so on. 'The standard model', also known as 'C', is what young programmers know today. They believe that when they know both K&R C, C++20, Pyton and Javascript, then they know all the languages of the world. Or at least all the valuable ones. The rest is only for cases where you need one more credit point for this quarter and must choose between 101 Introduction to Japanese or 101 Introduction to SNOBOL. You don't need either, you will never be using either. The Real Thing is the C class languages.
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