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All the physical distancing we are doing now, is to be able to limit the number of new cases of the virus, to be able to have the health system handle new cases without being overwhelmed.
That is also one of the reason we need testing at large, the quicker we know someone has the virus, the quicker we can quarantine them and eventually plan treating them.
At one point it will be normal for a number of people to get infected and will be normal for the health system to take care of them. (like it is for normal virus people get every year)
There are many business that can open while keeping employees safe.
Most business that allow working from home will will keep it like it is right now (I don't think I will see the inside of my office until late summer).
Many small stores can open, especially if there is no real contact between the customer and the store staff (book stores, electronic stores...)
For example,
In Québec, most food businesses are open, either limiting the number of customers; or only allow for pickup an/or delivery.
Hardware stores are open, and a few other essential business (like plumbers, electrician for emergencies).
Today, they are allowing residential construction to get back to work for homes that need to be delivered in July; they are also allowing plant nursery to open as well as car mechanics and mining industries.
There are some categories of businesses that will take a long time to re-open (like you say, restaurants, bars, personal care ... ).
All spectator sports and cultural event (music shows, theater, movies, museums ... ) and shopping malls will not reopen until we have a vaccine.
I'd rather be phishing!
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For all practical purposes, you're saying keep things just as they are.
Food stores, for example, with regulated entry, have been the normal state of affairs for weeks. People have to eat. Mail is delivered; garbage picked up; stores that sell things that are "essentially essential" to being able to stay home are open.
Testing-at-large: I don't give it as much credit as many others. After all, many are walking around with this virus with essentially no symptoms - but spreading it none-the-less. So long as there's no reasonable herd-immunity to prevent most mechanisms of transmission then we all really have to consider the following:
"We are waiting around until we, ourselves, get the virus".
The longer you wait the better, not only to reduce stress on resources and thereby receive better care, but hopefully make it to the point where the lethal outcomes are treatable before they are lethal. If vaccine(s) are are released, are you willing to roll up your sleeve and be an earlier accept trial? If so, which one?
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Maximilien wrote: But we cannot continue lock down until then, it is not workable in the short and medium term.
We will start opening some businesses, and see how it goes.
Yup, there is no other practical way forward. Waiting for a vaccine (that might yet never appear) is delusional. Some (variably effective) treatments probably will appear.
But, before either a vaccine or treatments, there is, MUST BE, testing. In the shorter to medium term is is only testing that can allow us to stop destroying the economy. Both current-infection testing and antibody testing.
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I don't know about any existential issues, as I'm worried about a far more concrete problem.
How am I going to resume wearing shoes?
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Sigh. The problem is concrete, rather than existential. The shoes OTOH are a pair of Brooks Beast[^] running shoes, retired after a running season.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: The shoes OTOH
And that's where you got it wrong! Shoes don't go 'on the other hand' try the other limb appendages
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So that's it. This explains much. Thanks! 
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: How am I going to resume wearing shoes?
Start out gradually.
Use them for earrings - it'll progress just fine from that point.
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We had clear skies last night so I decided to drag the telescope and laptop out into the garden and setup for the evening.
Spent some time properly polar aligning and trying to get better focus and coma correction.
Well, I would say it was success, and managed to grab M1 Crab Nebula, although it was a bit disappointing on the colour front. Also managed to grab M81 Bode's Galaxy and M82 Cigar Galaxy as a pair. Also did a standalone focus on M82.
I would say the M82 Cigar galaxy came out the best. Colours stood out quite well on it. Definitely revisit these targets in the future and refine the settings etc.
For those interested, I have posted the photos on my blog here: My first galaxies!
P.S. how's everyone doing? I am desperate to go back to work, was meant to have been in Qatar mid March, but stuck in Cyprus, although, I agree, there is probably a lot worse places to be stuck. We are in strict lock down though, so can't get out and about on my quad. Need approval to leave the house here.
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Tried to conquer the galaxy in FreeOrion, but sadly the computer NPC's won again 
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Does that mean the poor sods on the rig are stuck there for the duration?
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Ouch. That's gotta hurt - they could be there for months!
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Occasionally, I get the urge to pick up a telescope again, and taking a look at your photos really drives that desire today. 
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DaveAuld wrote: Need approval to leave the house here.
if you need to get groceries, etc. how does that work where you are at in Cyprus?
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You send an SMS with your reason code, I'd number, post code to government and they reply with an approval or rejection.
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Uff, That has to hurt.
Good that you have a nice house and plenty of things to set up to keep you busy.
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Holy good grief.
(And well done on the galaxies).
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Quote: how's everyone doing? I am desperate to go back to work,
Was retrenched end of Feb as the company 'took another direction' (ie, outsourced 1/3 of its labour to India), worked a contract at a promising Co in March, had one of their clients in the USA been more stable and 'conditions' etc been better, I wouldn't have been 'business hibernated' .. so Im trying to work with a mate on a book (hard to get started), refreshing C#, refreshing Azure DevOps etc
glad to hear things are 'ok' with you - what is involved in an 'auto-guider' for a camera ? do you point it at 'a star/fixed point in the cosmos' and then rotate the camera (mount) with the Earth or ?)
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: what is involved in an 'auto-guider' for a camera
There a few ways of doing it, but in essence a camera takes a view of the stars and sends it back to a laptop or processes it locally, auto guiding software then monitors the movement of the star and nudges the telescope or main camera mount in the appropriate direction, to keep the selected star in the same position in the field of view.
One of the most common pieces of software in use is free - PHD2 Guiding
Here is an example of a standalone camera with dedicated guide scope that you attach to the main scope: Orion Camera Magnificent Mini AutoGuider Set Other methods involve putting a splitter prism in the primary optical train and taking a camera feed from there etc.
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A good friend of mine has a very big house with thick walls in the middle of the forest...
He has a router in the house office, which provides wifi to the rooms, but leaves the dinning room and the kitchen without wifi as it doesn't reach those buildings.
He asked me for a good and cheap solution to give him wifi in those rooms where the wifi signal doesn't arrive.
Clearly, given the house is big, a WIFI MESH system would be the way to go, as in a future he could expand the solution.
I've seen an introductory kit from DEVOLO in Amazon... that KIT includes:
1x MAGIC PLC -> Magic 1 LAN: Home Networking via magic Powerline | devolo AG[^]
1x MAGIC WIFI -> Magic 1 WiFi mini – for smart Mesh-WLAN | devolo AG[^]
I have a doubt though...
Will the MAGIC WIFI device create a copy of the router wifi? or will it create a new wifi?
I understand any new MAGIC WIFI device added would be part of the MESH wifi and therefore the cell phones at his house would not need to change wifi network manually...
And after all this... he is searching of a cheap solution to have the same wifi network at rooms and at the kitchen and dinning room... what would you recommend him?
He eants to be able to connect the TV to the network too. (The MAGIC WIFI I proposed should be placed just at TV back.)
Thank you all!
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I have devolo myself since mid 2016 and set it up on my relatives house too (end 2017 or beginning 2018).
I have a 1+1 satellite and my father-in-law has a 1+2 satellites.
Every satellite gives a new WiFi with its own password, then transfers it to the main unit through electricity wiring and the main unit translates it to LAN.
I must say , that in my case, it is more reliable than the direct WiFi of the FritzBox and I am very satisfied with my devolo.
EDIT:
My main unit is connected to router and offers you a switch. I have connected the cable of my PC to the main unit and with a shorter cable from the main unit to the PC. I don't notice any significant loss. I download with max speed of my contract (checked with laptop connected directly and download tests), stream, online playing... nothing.
Satellite has a LAN port too. I use the Wifi for mobile devices and the LAN port for the laptop connected to the TV.
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Only "bad" thing is (I don't exactly know why but it doesn't bother me that much, so I didn't dig it deeper), that they get second priority while connecting. I mean, if you get in reach of two different WiFi at the same time with more or less same signal strength, the other one gets selected.
I have got rid of it placing the devolo a bit nearer to the door, so it gets to my mobile phone first when I come home. Problem solved.
Sometimes if I come back walking from the other side, then the Router gets first there, I somewhen realize that WiFi doesn't work, manual switch problem solved.
EDIT3:
Installation is pretty easy. Just pair them correctly (press the buttons in the described order) and move them to the spot where you want to put them (I have had to re-teach them 2 times in 4 years, both after missing power supply for a relative long time).
My devices won't let you change configuration, I have added policies in router side to avoid surprises. Costs were around 60€ back then.
M.D.V.
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Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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modified 13-Apr-20 9:04am.
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Simplest I've seen is a WiFi extender that connects via main supply: seems to work pretty well, if you avoid the cheapo Chinese ones. I've seen a BT "Powerline Adapter" work pretty well locally (about 1Gb/s locally) in places you just can't reach through the 2 foot of solid granite that is a wall round here.
Pretty cheap solution, and very quick to install as well since no extra cables.
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