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Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

2-Jun-20 10:29

I like my phone with a cord please. A wire that binds it to a location.

Always too late with answering because the phone is where I don't expect it. And I make fun of all the idiots that call me instead of mailing; they deserve it.

Owning a telephone is not required by law, and having a lot of fun with the idiots that can't accept the laws and think they can phone me in my bosses' time. If he is paying, the you paying him for disturbing me.

And yes, I will send an invoice if you dare to call me for an "opportunity".

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kalberts2-Jun-20 11:49

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

2-Jun-20 11:49

I suppose that you know that you can get IP phones that look exactly like traditional pre-WW2 phones, with all the cables you desire. You can plug them into any network interface, so that you can move around wherever you are, while keeping your "fixed line" phone active wherever you are.

I guess this depends somewhat on your IP phone model's ability to register remotely with your ISP when you plug it it somewhere, and your ISPs willingness to accept moves. But if your ISP is as flexible as it ought to be, you can move around quite arbitrarily, and your IP phone land line will work everywhere you go, wherever you plug it in.

Eddy Vluggen2-Jun-20 11:55

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

2-Jun-20 11:55

Member 7989122 wrote:
I suppose that you know that you can get IP phones that look exactly like traditional pre-WW2 phones, with all the cables you desire. You can plug them into any network interface, so that you can move around wherever you are, while keeping your "fixed line" phone active wherever you are.

"Look like"; doesn't work for my old dial phone.

Member 7989122 wrote:
I guess this depends somewhat on your IP phone model's ability to register remotely with your ISP when you plug it it somewhere, and your ISPs willingness to accept moves. But if your ISP is as flexible as it ought to be, you can move around quite arbitrarily, and your IP phone land line will work everywhere you go, wherever you plug it in.

My ISP wouldn't recognize that type of phone.

And to repeat what I already said, owning a telephone is not required by law. Doesn't matter to me if the (official) sites require a phone number. I don't need to enter one. If the official service is unavailable without phones, I send a mail and ask for explanation.

--edit
Even the tax man complied. There's no laws saying you need to own a phone. If there is, I expect to receive a phone from the government; but I do not have any reason to buy one, nor to own one. I get along fine without those.

I'm not getting phone calls during work about "job opportunities". If I had those, I had to bill their fakkin' arses for wasting my bosses time without permission. Job opportunities aren't part of the sprint.

So NO, I don't have a phone. But if I would, it would be an old fashioned wheel-dial, that has no idea of IP whatsover.

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DerekT-P3-Jun-20 5:03

DerekT-P

3-Jun-20 5:03

You can get VOIP conversion kits / adapters for rotary dial phones, OR build your own[^] Though I suspect in your case you'd prefer the real deal - which still work just fine (until you have to "enter your account number using your phone's keypad" Frown | :(

)

I wonder - do your invoices for wasting your time ever get paid?

BTW I think the reference to "opportunities" was not so much job opportunities, but all those other wonderful opportunities we get to purchase things that will make our lives so much better - or perhaps the opportunity to fix a critical bug in your PC that the nice people from "Microsoft" are phoning you up to warn you of and help you with... Laugh | :laugh:

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

Eddy Vluggen3-Jun-20 5:20

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

3-Jun-20 5:20

DerekT-P wrote:
I wonder - do your invoices for wasting your time ever get paid?

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honey the codewitch2-Jun-20 12:15

honey the codewitch

2-Jun-20 12:15

It's 2020, I want a phone I can locate by pinging it from my wifi - some kind of finder app i can run from my PC/laptop that will cause the phone to beep until you locate it.

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Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

Eddy Vluggen2-Jun-20 12:53

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

2-Jun-20 12:53

It's 2020. I want a phone that doesn't do that. I want one with a cable, so I don't need an idiot-app to locate it. Not even Wifi in this home.

The kids visiting were forced to talk instead of focussing on their phone. They beat me with mobile internet, and showed me tiktok video's.

I prefer talking.

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kalberts2-Jun-20 11:31

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

2-Jun-20 11:31

Several of my friends / coworkers have a perfect answer for this: They have an app on the phone reporting its position to this web service that can tell you where the phone is. The app uses all sorts of tricks to get a correct location: GPS, Glasnost (or whatever it is called), Gallileo, locations of all sorts of GSM/successor towers, ...

The purpose is to tell your position so it can be reported to any agency who wants to track you ... maybe that is not the stated purpose, but just an indirect benefit. Everone can know exactly where you are: Authorities, friends, burglars, and advertising companies who want to direct you towards "relevant" stores.

What's in it for you? That's obvious: This web site told you exactly where to look for your phone!

I am trying to be as polite as I can when rejecting the pressure from my coworkers telling me how just great it is to let this app keept track of your phone (and indirectly: you) at all times. They do not see any problem with it. I do.

Cp-Coder2-Jun-20 14:22

Cp-Coder

2-Jun-20 14:22

you should have put a ring on it

Or you could attach a bell to it. Oh! No! That only works with a cat! Big Grin | :-D

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Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

kalberts2-Jun-20 14:37

Re: You can't find your phone, and you put it on "silent"?

2-Jun-20 14:37

Thats's what mice do, isn'nt it?
At least what I read in some fairy tales, that is what they planned to do.

But the instructions delivered with my mouse had no instructions for how to make it do it.
Maybe we'll do without. I usually use cpp to inspect files, rather than cat.
And, honestly, I don't want my mouse to start squeaking every time I open a file in cpp.

Nelek2-Jun-20 19:41

Nelek

2-Jun-20 19:41

There are / were some tiny things that you can stick to other objects that give a sound beeper if you whistle. You might use one of it.

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Cp-Coder2-Jun-20 9:49

Cp-Coder

2-Jun-20 9:49

My daughter does an online course for which she needs to ftp some files. I haven't ftp-ed in years and need advice on a good (free?) ftp client. Any advice will be sincerely appreciated! Thanks!

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Nelek2-Jun-20 9:54

Nelek

2-Jun-20 9:54

Check FileZilla[^]

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OriginalGriff2-Jun-20 10:00

OriginalGriff

2-Jun-20 10:00

That's my recommendation as well. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz2-Jun-20 10:05

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2-Jun-20 10:05

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Cp-Coder2-Jun-20 10:33

Cp-Coder

2-Jun-20 10:33

Thanks! FileZilla is just what the doctor ordered. Simple and easy to use. I could not ask for more!

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modified 2-Jun-20 20:14pm.

Nelek2-Jun-20 19:36

Nelek

2-Jun-20 19:36

You are welcome Smile | :)

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DRHuff3-Jun-20 6:56

DRHuff

3-Jun-20 6:56

Cp-Coder wrote:
I could not ask for more!

Yes you could and that results in

Cp-Coder wrote:
Simple and easy to use.

not being available!

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k50542-Jun-20 9:58

k5054

2-Jun-20 9:58

Almost every web browser out there will do FTP, even if you need to log in non-anonymously. Just use ftp://[sitename] in the address bar, and you should get an FTP connection that will allow you to browse.
These days, Win10 ships with a command-line ftp tool that can be used from cmd or powershell, too for the masochistic.

Keep Calm and Carry On

PIEBALDconsult2-Jun-20 10:06

PIEBALDconsult

2-Jun-20 10:06

k5054 wrote:
command-line ftp tool that can be used from cmd

Yup, that's what I do. But only about once a year, so I don't need anything more useful.

Kent Sharkey2-Jun-20 10:29

Kent Sharkey

2-Jun-20 10:29

Chrome deprecated FTP in April[^], and I think Firefox is doing it soon as well[^], so the days o' browsing FTP sites are going away.

TTFN - Kent

kalberts2-Jun-20 11:17

2-Jun-20 11:17

FTP deprecated???

Are you suggesting that Gopher may be going away as well?

Then, which tools are available for navigating gopher sites?

Kent Sharkey2-Jun-20 12:05

Kent Sharkey

2-Jun-20 12:05

Not FTP itself, just in browsers.

And now I return to being sad about Gopher. Cry | :((

TTFN - Kent

kalberts2-Jun-20 12:35

2-Jun-20 12:35

I don't think Gopher itself is super important today. But in the early 1990s, when I was teaching college students Internet protocols, we saw HTTP as natural, stepwise evolution of Gopher. HTTP was just an extension of the Gopher content alternatives, where links could be arbrirarity baked into the text content.

There is no doubt that we underestimated the importance of HTML - more so than HTTP. There is no doubt that we under-estimated the importance of supplying extra information with the request. Yet we saw it as a stepwise evolution: Allowing links to other resources to be embedded in the text. Supplying information with the request. Fairly simple extensions, from a technical point of view. We never saw it as anything revolutionary, brand new, never seen before, but as a great improvement to what we had.

Most web user had never seen Gopher, so to them it was revolutionary. Even among those who had used Gopher, many were flashed by the and fancy uses of the new HTML data contents format, and never realized how small the differences were to Gopher data, at least on the conceptual level.

I were never astonished by neither HTTP nor HTML, in themselves - both are simple extensions of earlier protocols (such as Gopher). What astonisehed me (and continue to do so!) is how content developers manage to utilize these rather primitive (it must be admitted!) mechanism for presenting rather impressing content!