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82M cases of covid worldwide, 19M of those are US. I guess those 8 out of 10 have figured that facemasks aren't fashionable and don't care about anyone but themselves.
Not everyone covers their cough or sneezes.
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Yep, the interweb is a wonderful thing - if you want to get you and your loved ones killed. There's always going to be someone, somewhere telling you exactly what you want to hear. I have not looked into the science, but surely, even if there is only a slim chance that a mask will protect yourself and others, it makes sense to wear it. Or you can just do what I do and stay in 24x7.
According to my wife, (who does have to go out - to work), there are still plenty of people by us, (Northants, UK), still not wearing masks. So it's not surprising that, later today, we are going to have Boris tell us that we are going to get more restrictions. I doubt it will make much difference though. People just don't seem to get it. Until we introduce a Tier 11, (with an 8pm curfew, and snipers on the rooftops), I don't think we are going to stop the spread!
Because viri don't come out until after 8pm. Keep listening to that science
You forgot to quote the "snipers" bit. I don't know about the curfew, but I'm pretty sure that snipers is scientifically proven!
To be honest, I don't give a sh!t about the science. I just take note of what's happening in the real world. And, here in the UK, we've had 50K+ new cases two days running and nearly 1000 deaths yesterday. Our hospitals are at capacity and the NHS staff are at breaking point. Clearly the measures currently in place aren't working - because people are not sticking to the rules. So the only way this is going, is up. More cases. More deaths. And more restrictions.
the measures currently in place aren't working - because people are not sticking to the rules
Or maybe they're not working because they just don't work and\or are simply not compatible with human life? Maybe repeatedly doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is simply a sign of madness?
Maybe repeatedly doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is simply a sign of madness?
And maybe its grim desperation and a lack of any alternative. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that viruses spread when people congregate. And, yes, I understand that asking people to stop congregating, is contrary to normal human existence. But desperate times, require desperate measures.
And, BTW, lock-down in March did stop the spread, so I don't think repeating that and expecting the same result, is madness. It's already a proven effective option - albeit with significant social and financial consequences. But I'm sure the government would be more than happy to hear from anyone who can suggest a better option.....
So why is it still here? The November lockdown was so we wouldn't be locked down over Christmas and after November the lockdowns continued ever more harshly not just for Christmas but the whole of December and now with literally no end in sight. Who knows, keep locking us down, maybe one of them will work?
But I'm sure the government would be more than happy to hear from anyone who can suggest a better option.....
Are you sure? Really? When was the last time you heard the phrase "herd immunity"? The thing that has got humans through things way worse than something with a 99% survival rate.
I am happy to accept that we will have to agree to disagree on this, but I have to correct your interpretation of what I said. "stop the spread" does not mean "eradicate" and I was not suggesting lock-down would do that.
And I'm pretty sure that "herd immunity" would have been considered, but quickly discounted once the consequences were considered - i.e: millions seriously ill; 100,000s dead; and the complete overwhelming of the NHS. That doesn't seem like a 'policy' a Government is ever going to be brave enough to go with! So, it's not even an option, never mind a better option.
I have noticed though that when I wear one other keep better distance to me.
Well, that's because you're wearing a hockey mask and people have seen Friday the 13th!
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I'm appalled by some of the self-righteousness in this thread. Even the "authorities" have said conflicting things, but anyone who doesn't adhere to the "facts" as some people see them is to be vilified.
And I'm appalled that people want to grandstand for the sake of grandstanding in the face of common sense and courtesy to others.
Just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's "bad" or "of no use".
Every. Bit. Counts.
Me? I wear a mask. I wash my hands. I keep my distance from others. I limit my shopping and try and go at quiet times. I don't bubble with other families. None of these, in isolation, will work. Together, they reduce my risk, and hence the risk to my family and neighbours and the old guy down the road, but a measurable amount.
If we all stop acting like this is someone else's problem to deal with then we'd all be able to get back to a semblance of normality. The bookend to Rights are Responsibilities.
However, I constantly question the science, and try to keep up with the latest, always evolving understanding of this pandemic. I'm not in a position to say "washing hands reduces the risk by X%" or "wearing a mask helps by Y%". For all we know it could be eating celery is what we all actually need to do. Who knows?
But in the meantime I will do what's asked and wear a mask because it's pathetically easy, it doesn't hurt, it fits in with my basic understanding of the mechanics of virus transmission in general, and because it's a simple gesture to say to my community "I'll do this tiny, tiny bit to help".
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