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Front pair: 32psi, 42psi.
Rear pair: 20psi, 60psi. That could explain the harsh-and-floaty ride quality.
I know nobody ever cares or even checks courtesy cars, but ... you'd think a garage would at least check occasionally.
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I trust that the offside pressures do not suggest anything about your weight. 
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Thankfully not - I'm a comfortable 22.2 BMI.
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According to the NHS I am 24.7. A bit more exercise required I think.
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Do you mean tyres ?
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I thought y'all used the metric system? Shouldn't you be measuring in kilopascals or bar or some such nonsense? 
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Installing VS 2022 on my laptop. 35GB package.
1Gbit fiber Internet.
32GB of RAM @ 5600MHz
Samsung 990 Pro (fastest consumer NVMe on the market)
i9-13900HX
And it still feels like waiting in line at the DMV.
I think the unwritten rule of Microsoft software is it expands to consume all available resources.
Let's make your $3000+ laptop behave like an old i5.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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I have a fairly average Dell i7 + 8Gb, with a medium speed internet. I cannot recall exactly how long the download and install took, but I think it was in the realm of minutes rather than hours.
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It heavily depends on what packages you install. I installed quite a few and the install took significantly longer than the download - about 10 minutes.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Here in England 10 minutes is considered time for a cup of tea. Speaking of which ... 
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I paid for a laptop like this specifically to avoid the coffee breaks.
It makes installing MS bloatware disappointing.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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My car is in for a service, and while I'm impressed by the professional approach of the garage so far, I hate the courtesy car: a Citroen C3. There's about a foot of clutch travel, but only the top one inch actually bites, the suspension is way to hard and bouncy at low speed but goes too soft and "floaty" at speed. It's noisy, the engine feels willing but rough and gutless. and the steering wheel isn't in front of me - it's slightly to the right.
Oh and you can't see a car behind you at all because the window is so small and the middle headrest at the back covers a car completely. Fortunately it does have a good reversing cam / sensor setup so parking isn't too bad. It's also got a tire warning light, but my pump is in the boot of my car and all four look inflated. I'll borrow my neighbours one later and check 'em.
The nicest thing I can say about it is ... um ... it's very French. And for today, it's free.
If I'd paid money for it, I'd probably be parking it somewhere that it will almost certainly be stolen from.
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That's weird, in the past Citroens were renowned for their suspension.
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Some years ago I swapped cars with a work colleague for a weekend. Mine was a Peugeot 405, his a big Citroen estate (can't recall the actual model). Driving it felt like being on a small boat in a big ocean, which I found quite weird. Switching on the "sport suspension" was much more like driving an actual car.
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That sounds like a Citroen CX with hydropneumatic suspension.
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That's the one. 
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I remember through the mists of a very long time, owning a Citroen as a student. Decided to change the plugs one day and it took half a day and what seemed like half the engine lying on the floor to get access to them. Left me with a "never again" feeling ...
Brings back another memory though. My mate was parked near me and working on his Ford Escort which he spent many, many years tweaking and replacing just about every part of until it was rally capable.
One day he left it in a parking space on a main road which was opposite a T junction at the bottom of a steep hill. When he came back to the car, he found it inside what remained of the shop he had parked in front of. I know I shouldn't laugh, but nobody was hurt ... 
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Not just Citroens - my first car was a Lancia Beta HPE 2000, and to get at one of the spark plugs you had to dismantle part of the cooling system ... Plus if you needed a part you had best take the old one with you as they fitted what came to hand. I found this out when I needed to replace a cracked distributor cap which took several journeys to get teh right one.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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A friend who runs his own repair shop tells me, to change the plugs on a Range Rover you need to take the body off - he refuses to work on them, he also employs an ex Land Rover factory mechanic who also refuses to work on them.
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Never had problems like that with an Allegro. Although to be fair, it did keep at least two North Sea oilrigs in business. One gallon of engine oil leaked per 100 miles, but at least it was predictable!
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Or the "All agro" as it was known.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Sad but true. Mine had the sporty 5th gear but turning on the air blowers did make a sound like a mass of wailing banshees that would make every pedestrian stop and look around. But, despite being single-handedly responsible for a fair proportion of climate change damage, it never actually broke down on me in several years.
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Isn't Citroen French for lemon?
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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