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Cosolas for LCD, Courier New for CRT

1-Jul-08 11:15

Yeah, I was just looking at it (in 7 point) and I noticed that too. But that seems common; even Consolas and the Proggies have serifs on the i and j. The lowercase l as well, but that's a good thing -- distinct from vertical bar |

However, the l is still too similar to the 1.

T800G30-Jun-08 6:34

T800G

30-Jun-08 6:34

Proggy is too small and it comes only in a handful of sizes, so Consolas it is. Plus, it looks great with cleartype on LCD (my main machine), on CRT Courier New is the better choice.

The only flaw of Consolas is a lack of slashed zero (you gotta tell your O from 0).
Unfortunately, people who make fonts (typographists and graphic designers) don't do programming, they are in completely different domains of creativity, otherwise somebody would have made the right stuff by now.

Fixedsys (go ahead, try it)

QuiJohn30-Jun-08 4:31

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30-Jun-08 4:31

Variable width? "Don't care"??? You people call yourself programmers?

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ClockMeister30-Jun-08 5:30

ClockMeister

30-Jun-08 5:30

I always use "Terminal" myself. Easier for my aging eyes to read.

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peterchen30-Jun-08 5:46

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30-Jun-08 5:46

Been using it for some years, but I've settled with Proggy Clean Slashed Zero.

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Grimolfr30-Jun-08 5:58

Grimolfr

30-Jun-08 5:58

I've been using Courier New up until today. I tried Consolas for a couple of hours both with and without ClearType enabled, and didn't like it at all. (I don't like ClearType, either. To me it isn't really all that "clear.")

Since Chris was nice enough to provide links in the poll, I've now switched to Proggy Clean SZ, myself.

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The Cake of Deceit30-Jun-08 10:48

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30-Jun-08 10:48

In apps which only allow TrueType, use Fixedsys Excelsior. When you scale you see pixelation... Mmmm.....

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"Raster fonts"

PIEBALDconsult30-Jun-08 4:15

Re: Comic Sans MS for VB...

30-Jun-08 4:15

The DOS box properties dialog just says "Raster fonts", I use 7x12.

Comic Sans MS for VB...

The Cake of Deceit30-Jun-08 3:33

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30-Jun-08 3:33

... very suitable for it.

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Corinna John30-Jun-08 4:29

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30-Jun-08 4:29

... in a colour scheme with lots of pink. Smile | :)

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Re: Comic Sans MS for VB...

PIEBALDconsult30-Jun-08 6:11

Noooooo - not serif'd fonts

30-Jun-08 6:11

Lends itself to limp wrists?

adambl30-Jun-08 2:06

adambl

30-Jun-08 2:06

Absolutely definitely no way should anyone ever write any code at all of any sort in any language using Courier New, or any serif'ed font.

If I ruled the world this would be my first Law, and second and third, just to make the point.

Serifs are for the printed page not screens with pixels. (<- genuine point!!!)

STOP USING COURIER NEW - NOW.

You think I'm just a crank but I'm right, and one day you'll see the light and agree.

Code written with serifs smells funny *and* is more buggy.

If I ever see code written in Courier New I re-write it in Bitstream just to make sure.

Adam

PS I've toned down my usual level or ire on this subject so I hopefully come across all reasonable and balanced. You should hear me when I really get going.

Re: Noooooo - not serif'd fonts

C^hris L^osinger30-Jun-08 4:09

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30-Jun-08 4:09

adambl wrote:
You think I'm just a crank

you got that part right, at least.

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Re: Noooooo - not serif'd fonts [modified]

PIEBALDconsult30-Jun-08 7:57

Re: Noooooo - not serif'd fonts

30-Jun-08 7:57

You know of a sans serif typeface with easily distinguishable uppercase "I" and lowercase "L"? Oh, I see... Comic Sans MS.

P.S. Bear in mind that those bars at the top and bottom of I are serifs; Comic Sans and Tahoma aren't truly sans serif.

modified on Monday, June 30, 2008 2:13 PM

WillemM30-Jun-08 8:46

WillemM

30-Jun-08 8:46

I doubt the fact the code with serifs is more buggy. Come on, its just a bunch of letters. You get just as much bugs with consolas Poke tongue | ;-P

However I do agree that code is easier to read with a sans-serif font.

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Jonathan C Dickinson30-Jun-08 1:37

Jonathan C Dickinson

30-Jun-08 1:37

Envy Code R is really a good font: thank god for this poll - it changed my life!!!

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i like it ;}

radioman.lt30-Jun-08 0:05

radioman.lt

30-Jun-08 0:05

i try Consolas and i like it

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Re: i like it ;}

PIEBALDconsult30-Jun-08 4:19

30-Jun-08 4:19

I tried it a while back when someone here mentioned it. I didn't like it.

Fonts are important

Paul Watson29-Jun-08 22:20

Paul Watson

29-Jun-08 22:20

To the current 27% who voted "Don't care" I'd wager you would care if the default font was a poor choice e.g. Comic Sans.

Typography is a subtle craft that when done best you don't know about and don't have to care about. But when it is done poorly it can negatively impact on your productivity and state of mind.

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Simon Capewell29-Jun-08 23:35

Simon Capewell

29-Jun-08 23:35

Yes, it should probably read "Don"t know, don"t care, I use whatever is default, which is usually Courier New". Mind you, I've worked with a few people who would've coded better if the default was Wingdings.

Donkey Master29-Jun-08 23:43

Donkey Master

29-Jun-08 23:43

I voted "I don't care", but that's because the default font is always a good choice, all code editors use monospaced fonts by default.
For instance, when I have to paste some code snippet in Word, I do use a monospace font (I added a style to normal.dot and all and all).
Hmm, maybe I should have voted "Courier New".

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Gary Wheeler30-Jun-08 1:21

Gary Wheeler

30-Jun-08 1:21

Paul Watson wrote:
the default font was a poor choice e.g. Comic Sans

I dunno. Comic Sans is pretty readable compared to one of the decorative typefaces like Script or Chiller, or one of the symbol fonts like WingDings Laugh | :laugh:

Paul Watson wrote:
Typography is a subtle craft that when done best you don't know about and don't have to care about. But when it is done poorly it can negatively impact on your productivity and state of mind.

Agreed. We build high-speed inkjet printers, and in our lower-resolution days (120 and 240 dots per inch) we spent a great deal of time hand-tweaking fonts.

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