Bugs and Suggestions

3-Jun-10 3:39

I just wrote a comment to a QA, but then I noticed that it was wrong. So I deleted the comment.

However, I still see the comment, but it says "deleted" to the right of it.

Is it only me that can see it or is it in fact not deleted?

Tom Deketelaere3-Jun-10 3:51

3-Jun-10 3:51

I can see it when I click the 'show deleted' button.

I don't know if that button is visible for everyone or if it depends on reputation.

Initially the comment isn't visible tho.

Johnny J.3-Jun-10 3:54

3-Jun-10 3:54

So it's just visible to me right off...

Good to know, problem solved! Smile | :)

Sandeep Mewara3-Jun-10 6:50

Sandeep Mewara

3-Jun-10 6:50

Johnny J. wrote:
So it's just visible to me all Platinum authority people

FTFY

Tom Deketelaere3-Jun-10 21:45

3-Jun-10 21:45

Sandeep Mewara wrote:
Johnny J. wrote:
So it's just visible to me all ~~Platinum~~ Gold authority people

FTFY

Johnny J.3-Jun-10 22:12

3-Jun-10 22:12

Basically everybody, that is.

Then what's the point of having a "delete" option???

Sandeep Mewara3-Jun-10 22:53

Sandeep Mewara

3-Jun-10 22:53

Johnny J. wrote:
Basically everybody, that is.

No. Not everybody. Only people with Gold+ members. They are very limited. Check one of the Luc's article to see the exact number if you want. Initially it was only Platinum members, but looks like it is extended to Gold now. (For situations where spamming is at peak and more people are required to handle them.)

Johnny J.3-Jun-10 23:23

3-Jun-10 23:23

But again: What's the point of "deleting" a comment and then it's still visible? You might have written something that was completely wrong that you really don't want anybody else seeing?

Tom Deketelaere3-Jun-10 23:32

3-Jun-10 23:32

The fact that you deleted it means that you consider it to be wrong therefor nobody is going to hold it against you Smile | :)

The point might be that when you post a comment, another user posts one building upon yours or simply saying it's wrong or something, then you delete yours leaving only the response to yours, people might wonder why that 1 comment is there making no sense at all.

Tom Deketelaere3-Jun-10 23:27

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3-Jun-10 23:27

Sandeep Mewara wrote:
Check one of the Luc's article to see the exact number if you want

You can't get the exact number, the tool Luc wrote will only get the top 181 users (according to message count (I think)).
It's a shame but I guess he had to implement some sort of filter otherwise the loading would have taken days Smile | :)

For instance you won't find me in that list but I do have gold authority.

As far as I can gather you have to have 2500+ messages to be on the list.
Only 500 to go Poke tongue | ;-P

From the list there are 40 members with those rights.

[EDIT]
Seems like it's the first 4 pages of the who's who by article count and the first 4 by message count.

So you'll have to either have 5000+ messages
Or 15 + articles

I have a long way to go until I show up in his list Frown | :(

[/EDIT]

Luc Pattyn3-Jun-10 2:36

3-Jun-10 2:36

I don't recall having seen this one before, but I'm sure it must have been discussed before, as it is rather obvious. My apologies in advance.

When switching from normal forum view to "View Thread", all works fine as expected. However when the thread has been read, one probably wants to continue seeing the next/previous (older/younger) thread. But AFAICT the only available tool is "View All Threads". When clicking this, it returns to the first page of the forum, i.e. the most recent thread, possibly resulting in a need for a lot of "Next page" clicks to return to where we were.

How about adding all or some of these:
0. view all threads starting at this very thread
1. view all threads starting at next older one
2. view all threads starting at next younger one.
3. view next older thread
4. view next younger thread

having at least (0) or (1) or (2) would be a dramatic improvement.

[EDIT]
(0) could become the normal behavior of the "View All Threads" widget that is already there.
(3) and (4) could become regular "Next" and "Prev" widgets, currently absent in View Thread mode.

Of course one can use the browser's "Back" button, but that seems a bit odd, as all other navigation is supported by the forum pages themselves.
[/EDIT]

TIA.

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modified on Thursday, June 3, 2010 9:11 AM

Tom Deketelaere3-Jun-10 2:51

3-Jun-10 2:51

Hmmm been a member of CP for more than 4 years now and it's the first time I used the thread view.

Have to say: I don't like it Smile | :)

back to normal view.
And I'm guessing most if not all use the normal view Smile | :)

Luc Pattyn3-Jun-10 2:57

3-Jun-10 2:57

I'm always in normal view, except when I want to dig deep into a topic; thread view allows you to get the top message (the original question) at the top of the list, and probably all the replies on the same page. It solves the problem you get when a thread has a few messages at the bottom of one page, and a few more at the top of the next page. That's all. Getting out of that mode and continuing normal reading is what I would like to see improved a bit.

Smile | :)

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Tom Deketelaere3-Jun-10 3:02

3-Jun-10 3:02

Luc Pattyn wrote:
It solves the problem you get when a thread has a few messages at the bottom of one page, and a few more at the top of the next page.

Yeah I use the next page button for that Poke tongue | ;-P

But I can see how it can be useful Smile | :)

Luc Pattyn3-Jun-10 3:10

3-Jun-10 3:10

Tom Deketelaere wrote:
But I can see how it can be useful

Messages can be pinned, i.e. kept permanently open while looking at one or a couple of other messages; the original question is a prime candidate here, provided it is on the same page.

Smile | :)

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Chris Maunder30-Jun-10 17:01

Chris Maunder

30-Jun-10 17:01

Ah - but where to put all these extra buttons! (don't answer: Javascript will solve this issue)

However (and tengential to the topic) have you see the Prev/Next button in Quick Answers? I'm assuming this is the style of thing you're after?

We're using Quick Answers as a test bed for the prev/next since it's a simple system on the surface with some nice subtlties that allow us to test a bunch of stuff. Once we're happy with it (and its speed) we can extend to things like fora and articles.

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Filter preference

Anthony Mushrow2-Jun-10 13:44

Anthony Mushrow

2-Jun-10 13:44

If your searching for an article and you filter your results with C++ for example, when you next visit Quick Answers that is the filter that will be set. Slightly less inconveniently (for me at least) when you look at the latest articles the same filter will be set.

If the filter is going to persist then why is it set when I do a quick search for an article, rather than some setting from my profile?
I didn't think many questions had been posted in QA today, but it turns out that the filter was set to VB.NET because I went to check an article for somebody earlier on.

It's not so bad that the filter persists when I set from QA itself, but I wouldn't expect my searching for articles to affect it.

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Thiru Thirunavukarasu3-Jun-10 8:37

Thiru Thirunavukarasu

3-Jun-10 8:37

This has been brought up quite a few times. We have a task (but not one of our higher priorities ATM) to rework this so that filters are not automatically saved. You can still save but it will be an explicit option on the relevant page and in your member profile.

Luc Pattyn3-Jun-10 9:12

3-Jun-10 9:12

sounds good. I have three additional suggestions:

1.
when some filters are in effect, always show them. Do not hide them behind a "show advanced search" widget. Whatever choice is not visible should not be in effect. Case in point is the "Search Message Boards" page.

2.
the default values for dates (from and to) are fixed to "stone age" and "today". I seldom search old stuff, most of the time I'm searching for a message I know is less than 1 week old, and then I must adjust the from date: select this year from the combobox, select this month from another combobox, then click some day. Please simplify its use.
My preference would be: adding another combobox with the choices:
- last week (i.e. no older than 7 days)
- last month
- last year
- between from and to
And then the choice should be persisted (and probably visible on the settings page if other search settings are also made available there).

3.
You offer a choice between posts, replies, posts and replies; which is good.
I would also like a checkbox saying "subject line only"

Smile | :)

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Thiru Thirunavukarasu7-Jun-10 5:08

Thiru Thirunavukarasu

7-Jun-10 5:08

1. Agree
2. I think that sounds good. This would be another task with a lower priority however.
3. I'll suggest this to the team.

Thanks for the comments.

Luc Pattyn7-Jun-10 5:17

Organiser misappropriation

7-Jun-10 5:17

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Luc Pattyn2-Jun-10 12:02

Re: Organiser misappropriation

2-Jun-10 12:02

When member B votes member A's message up in a programming forum, in the Lounge, etc. two things should happen in the rep department:

1. A gets rep points (number and category depend on some factors) for being up-voted;
2. B is supposed to get 1 organiser point (within some limits).

The first part works pretty well, except for too many messages not being regarded as answers due to a bad choice of default icon, resulting in lots of Debator points that should have been Authority points. Soit. That is a minor mistake in view of the other one:

I can tell now for sure, the second part does not happen: B is not getting his Organiser point. It is A who is getting the Organiser point!
I have tested with an answer in C# and a general message in Lounge, B's rep did not move at all, A gained 6 points on each occasion, 5 in authority or Debator, and 1 in Organiser.

In all likelihood this mistake (I assume that's what it is as I fail to see the logic, and it is not in accordance with the rules here[^]) got introduced some 3 weeks ago when a lot of people suddenly lost a lot of Organiser points (and maybe a color grade too) at the then recalculation, as first reported here[^].

I am still recovering from that hit. And I want my points back! Let there be justice.

TIA

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2-Jun-10 12:25

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Re: Organiser misappropriation

Luc Pattyn2-Jun-10 12:32