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There are rumors going around that XP will not run Framework 4.5. In the beta you could not run on Windows XP, and that apparently was anounced. There apparently has been pressure put on Microsoft to support 4.5. I know there were some earlier discussions about this issue, and did not see a followup.
modified 29-Oct-12 11:18am.
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That link is for Windows Installer 4.5, not .NET Framework.
Microsoft have already confirmed[^] that .NET 4.5 will not run on XP, and have so far failed to comment on the suggestion[^] of providing a 4.0 service pack for XP.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yes, Microsoft seems to be downplaying supporting XP. I discovered I had the wrong link. Have not found any link for framework 4.5 for XP.
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why M$ is so successful of shooting itself in any foot these days? 
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I know that I think that it is pretty crappy that XP is not supported. But you are right, seems to be the MS is shooting itself in the foot these days. Windows 8 apparently sucks as a desktop OS. Of coures MS almost always seems to get OS's wrong the first time. T
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Microsoft no longer supports XP. They are trying to get people away from it, and newer features would be hampered by working in the limitations. A lot of people have 64 bit machines now, so it doesn't make sense to stick with XP.
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Of course, it just reduces the number of applications that will use 4.5. In my organization there are still xp machines, and there is lots of money in the organization. That does not include the number of XP personal PCs that are in use and will be in use for many years. There will be a lot of people that will resist 4.5 because of this stupidity. There is not a good reason to move up to Win7. Of course they want people to buy win8, which is not a good enough OS of desktop for people to buy (people complain about adapting to Win. Why upgrade when OS works fine. Which means that framework 4.5 will not be readily adopted by many organizations. Microsoft is just pissing people off. Not good for Microsoft. I am definately pissed at this overisght.
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It isn't an oversight. It is a deliberate move.
Windows XP is over 10 years old. I personally feel Microsoft has done a great job of supporting Windows XP as it is now 3 OSes behind current version. Mainstream support ended in 2009 yet they have still released major updates for it. Windows XP is now in extended support which just covers hotfixes basically.
With regard to orgs not adopting framework 4.5 due to it not supporting Windows XP, I've actually seen that as a pretty good pressure point on management to finally upgrade those machines to more current OSes.
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Hi,
I have strange behavior in WCF with Entity framework 5 and dotnet framework 5.
I created a database of two tables and relationship 1 to many between them and added them to the entity framework,
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26814346/sc.png
then I wrote a code in a (Silverlight enabled WCF) to read all the data in cDetails table
[ServiceContract(Namespace = "")]
[AspNetCompatibilityRequirements(RequirementsMode = AspNetCompatibilityRequirementsMode.Allowed)]
public class Candidates_Service
{
[OperationContract]
public List<cDetail > Get_Candidates()
{
ttEntities1 db = new ttEntities1();
return db.cDetails.ToList();
}
}
when I tried to consume this service in Silverlight client I got the error (the remote server returned an error Not Found),
I tried to consume it in widows application client and in windows 8 client I got another error
An error occurred while receiving the HTTP response to http://localhost:1552/Candidates_Service.svc. This could be due to the service endpoint binding not using the HTTP protocol. This could also be due to an HTTP request context being aborted by the server (possibly due to the service shutting down). See server logs for more details.
the strange thing is when I remove the parent table and work without relations everything work as expected.
and the same code is working when I tried to use it to bind data directly on a web form (without using the service).
also after a lot of google search I found some articles speaking that I have to make the LasyLoadingEnabled = false
and another said it is the data size Issue so a made the LasyLoadingEnabled as false and changed the size to 2GB (there are only 4 records in the table) and the result was the same.
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Hi,
Did u check whether your firewall is blocking calls to WCF service?
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Hi guys
I want to write devenv in "Run" window to start Visual Studio 2010.
As I had installed VS 2008 first it will run VS 2008.
Is there any way to keep both and run VS 2010 by writing devenv in "Run"?
Honestly
Meysam
SignatureNotFoundException
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Change your path variable in windows so that the devenv for 2010 will run instead.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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That is what I originally thought, but on checking my PATH variable found no references to any visual studio locations. The registry needs to be changed as per the solution found over at SO.
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Thank you.
SignatureNotFoundException
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Looking at Visual Studio 2012 ultimate, there are built in microsoft office templates
Question is how to create a c# app that will create a word doc and fill in specific parts of the new doc based on customizable text boxes in the app?
and keep track of various docs it created? if the text box 1 is for the title of the doc that could be put in a certain font/size and written to specific coordinates
thanks
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Hi All,
We are about to develop an enterpirse WebApplication for online ticket reservation, scheduling, managing suppliers, accepting online customer registeration & reservation, online payment and opening acounts for our agents (in different countries) to handel there tansactions in the system.
1. And now VS2012 officialy released .. I'm asking about its stability since its new to the commerical area, is it safe to start with it or shall we give it more time in the market & start now the project in VS2010?
2. For such WebApp, what technologies and tools suggested to be used in terms of speeding up the development time, avoiding SQL injections, stability .. etc, (HTML5, MVC, linq, entity framework .. others )
Any advice is highly appreciated.
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Its good news the vs 2012 has been released officially. I would like to suggest you for spent some time of this version and then you would know that what is right way for you.
I hope my thought will good work for you. 
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My experience in developping Enterprise web apps with Microsoft Visual studio lineup, is that its suitable for scalable mission critical web apps. My advice would be to thouroughly test the MVC concept. I dont know the size/experience of your development team, but TEAM FOUNDATION development is guaranteed. The programminglanguage (c++, c#, etc) is ofcourse an aspect not to be overlooked!
First make a solid functional and architectural design eg. 1. how many foreign offices, cultural aspects, how many customers, how many transactions etc.
Make a good functional design, as this is imperative to have a good start!
So you will gain better insight of your userinterface, your middleware and backend.
There are a few Codegenerators as well suitable which can be integrated tp VS2012 (e.g.CodeOnTime)
As a start i would suggest to make a small prototype system based on your needs.
Good luck.
kind regards.
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use SQL, preferably oracle. and if oracle, preferably java.
it sounds like very data-centric app, like bank.
also revise your expectation, you can do a rapid development and expect automagicaly to be fast and secure 
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Hi
I want to create application that will initially free but some level will be lockec if use want to unlock these level he should pay for it. How I can do that in windows 8 marketplace please help me?
WANTED wasim khan(Killed 50 Innocent Buggs, Distroyed 200 Exception, make 5 Project Hostage) any Compnay Hire him will pay 30,000. Best place where u can get him is Sorcim Technologies Murre Road RWP
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Check out this link [^] which discusses some of the strategies you can use to monetize your app.
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I wanna know that does Team Foundation Server functionality existed in VS 2012 Ultimate Edition or it is must be downloaded separately?
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Thanks Sandeep,
What about the Application Lifecycle Management (ALM)?
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I just wanna know is it included in VS 2012 Ultimate?
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First time it was OK, but after I shared the link that explains every version having features present (direct MS link), you could have checked in the VS details link.
If you still did not find it, do a quick Google. I am not sure of it as I have not used it.
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The issues are the same, C# and VB.NET use exactly the same framework.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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ed-clift wrote: Thanks for your response.
I don't mean to be disrespectful (that's why I'm not posting it on the discussion board), but when I try to use the C code, it takes me hours and hours to translate, and it never seems to work.
I see many similarities, but the "devil is in the detail", and it takes DAYS to get it to work, with the nuances of each language.
Very interesting, but what exactly is your problem? The example you linked to is in C# which is as close to VB.NET as you can get. I suggest you try Googling to see if there are any tools which could do the conversion for you.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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The link you provided in your original question covers exactly that scenario. I suggest you study the article to find out how it works and then find a way of converting the code from C# to VB.NET.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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If I understand well, Setup Projects are not available anymore in VS2012.
Microsoft encourages us to move to InstallShield.
I installed the free version and it looks quite different to the Microsoft Setup project.
Did someone try alternatives like WIX, NSIS or InnoSetup?
My current setup are quite complex as they contain custom forms.
What package do you recommend?
I'd be interested to know what you've been doing about this.
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I use WIX and it's a great deploy package.
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hi everyone,
I want to know how to deploy my application using vb.net database sql server 2008 knowing that the client has not sql server 2008 installed on his computer.
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i need to create and windows app.
what i want to do is create one form that have 2 checkbox.
1 checkbox will open installer file(.exe) and will going to finish it and then going back to default form without need user to click next,next and so on.
anybody can help me with it? i'm stuck at it and i think automation is the best solution. and i don't know how to implement it in the app.
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Look at the title of your message, and look at the title of this forum: do you see the difference? There is a Visual Basic forum here[^], and a Visual Studio forum here[^]. Please post in the more appropriate forum, and give some more detail about your problem.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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Hi All
I have been using the express editions for a number of years now and have been considering purchasing a professional edition.
Can any body tell me what the differences are between the express editions and the professional editions of VS2012?
In other words what extra am I getting for my money if I purchase?
Regards
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The professional editions include things like resource editor, MFC, managed C++ etc. The best thing to do is to look at the Microsoft product descriptions and check which extra features you actually need.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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One of the big differences between the two is in the fact that you can't host plugins/extensions in Visual Studio Express. If you see a plugin that you absolutely must have, then you have to be using a paid version of Visual Studio.
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OK, my company is looking to purchase VS11. In the past they have always just gotten us the basic Pro version (no MSDN) by default. This year they are seriously considering getting us the MSDN subscription and asked us to make a case for getting Premium or Ultimate as well.
I've gone to the comparison chart here: http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/products/compare[^]
But since I've never used anything but Pro, a lot of the features are foreign to me.
We are a small team in a large company and we don't use anything TFS related. We are primarily a C++ shop (largely MFC/ATL/COM) with a very small amount of .NET but very little UI development and very little database or web development.
So, for those of you who have Premium or Ultimate, what would you REALLY miss if you were dropped down to Pro? and Why?
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I use VS Ultimate. I would miss the Architecture functionality (especially the ability to generate dependency graphs) and the Code Coverage in the tests, but not enough to worry about them.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: minimalness of the MSDN subscriptions. While it 'mostly' covers everything,
there are things missing.
Can you expand on this bit? I downloaded the MSDN subscription comparison spreadsheet as well but nothing jumped out at me. What is the Pro version missing that you would use if you had a higher sub?
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I think that VS Premium is the version that the most users going to use it. And isn't heavey. Ultimate has all features (very cool).
Christian Amado
MCITP | MCTS | MOS | MTA
Olimpia ☆ ★★★
Please mark as answer, if it helps.
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My favorite part if the Magazine.
For some reason I never get it though.
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Visual Studio 2012 RC Ultimate, Windows 7 32bit, WinForms Application
Hi guys
Have been googling this all morning with no easy answer.
I placed a button on a form and double clicked the button to create the click event. After a while I realized I did not name the button. So I named it from "button2" to "btnShowTheResults" in the Properties panel.
So now the button has the new name property, but the event is still called "button2_Click".
How do I update all the events to they have the new Name property without corrupting the Form?
Thank you
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NJKotze wrote: How do I update all the events
I believe that you would have to do this manually.
Why is common sense not common?
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert.
Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy
Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
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