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Quote: It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer
Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input (or at least on small projects with no other IT input). "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify - it's how much they save (or generate) as a result of what I do for them, divided by their cost of hiring me. Or in another measure, how many days it takes to recover that cost. When there's a team involved, the client can get an overall figure for the team, but not the individuals in that team.
Quote: Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happens
That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime. That's when some of the most critical decisions are made (i.e. where a single bad decision can have the biggest negative impact) and you don't want your workers tired, stressed or resentful at that time. Manage your project and put in the overtime as soon as any slippage - including eating into any contingency - occurs.
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I am on a team of Senior Developers at a multi-national engineering/manufacturing company... so these items are a little different in my worldSander Rossel wrote: It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer!DerekT-P replied: Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input. "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify
My junior developers are all contracted in, their tasks have a budgeted time amount. I do give input and I do review their work. My bosses review their invoiced time and compare it to what was budgeted.
Jacquers wrote: Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happenDerekT-P replied: That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime.
That depends.... Our (team) projects all have time budgeted for the deployment projects as well as post-deployment support.
But then again, if other parts of the company change up their data format or come up with something else weird... we may get some calls about what they did to gum up our works with the natural question of how am I going to fix it.
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Quote: other parts of the company change up their data format
Eeek. Yet another reason why I prefer to be in small companies where I am the IT department! However, one of my last roles before going freelance was as "Design Authority" for a household-name insurer. The role involved (among other things) making certain that all teams across the company followed the same principles, used compatible software, and made sure that there were no "unexpected" format changes! I was also able to identify and eliminate a lot of duplication. Having someone in a role like that (not necessarily with that title) has the potential to make a massive difference to how smoothly things can get into production.
Re measuring productivity by comparing to a budget is a start, but is measuring the skill of the budget estimator just as much as that of the developer.
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At least he's being honest.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Sure, maybe. There's a place that invited me for an interview that didn't own the parking spaces in front of it. Local govt owned them. Local govt put a 4 hour limit on it.. and enforced it too. So in your lunch break, you had to go out and reset the time, or get a fine. Absolute trash. There were other reasons to reject them but it would have been enough.
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Hi,
I had the same situation with parking issue. Every morning I had to circling at least 20 minutes around my company to find a free parking place.
If you wondering on the candidates answer, than you never been in this situation. You can't feel how frustrating it is.
Zoltan
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If you're in Europe, I can believe not being able to park his car comfortably. I scratched up the passenger side of the rental car pretty good in Killarney due to a narrow little lane and my lack of depth perception.
On a side note, turns out it wasn't a good idea to go to Ireland for St. Patrick's Day this year...
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I can sympathize with that. If you work at an office downtown and you have to find parking on the street or something that would get old really fast. Thats one of the reasons I wouldn't want to work downtown.
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But to be honest, I never knew she sold flowers... 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: flowering plants are [often] simultaneous hermaphrodites that can self-fertilize
So instead of telling someone to go f*** themselves you can tell them they're like a flower 
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Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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A dartboard on the ceiling! 
Ba-tish!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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cool.
Just curious: what would you suggest for Justin Beiber on the ceiling?
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, CCP
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A flamethrower?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Exact same idea, considerably less creative delivery method than you. 
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lopatir asked: what would you suggest for Justin Beiber on the ceiling?
Steel tipped darts
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Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Call a company that specialises in asbestos removal. They have both the equipment and the expertise to handle hazardous material.
The question is - how did Justin Bieber get on your ceiling?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I don't want to under stand that.
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My body has absorbed so much that when I urinate, I clean the toilet.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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they say keyboards are dirtier than toilets,
so next time you need to pee ...
(you may want to leave any cats thereupon in place -> one shot 2 things disinfected.)
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, CCP
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lopatir wrote: they say keyboards are dirtier than toilets,
so next time you need to pee ...
No...no..
Next time you want to _type_.
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Not dirtier, but they may contain more bacteria. No pissing-stains on the keyboard. A quick wipe with a little vinegar once a week works miracles.
Unless you're a smoker; ash turns to cement if you add moisture.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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... Everybody!
Ba-Tish! Tomorrow is a holiday in Sweden, so today feels like friday... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Johnny J. wrote: Tomorrow is a holiday in Sweden, so today feels like friday.
So instead of being home working you're going to be home watching movies?
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