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You are not english...
nuff said  
Neither am I
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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modified 13-May-20 16:26pm.
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If someone has to explain to you why it's funny, it stops being funny!
For me, it was a bunch of very clever people observing life and putting a different spin on it. It was absolutely ground breaking in its day because it was a new and unique form of comedy that appealed to a generation. To be fair, it was also very experimental, so although it is revered now by those who remember it and appreciated it in the context of its time, equally there was a lot of it that didn't really work and was quietly forgotten.
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The television shows were funny when first seen, at the age of 12 or whatever I was back then.
Likewise, Douglas Adams' books were good at first reading. Even the Dirk Gently books.
There are a lot of works like that (And I don't mean to poke at Brits...these examples are just the first to pop into my head.)
But except for bits and pieces, now and again, they don't do anything for me.
Shrug
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It's primarily right place at the right time. I'm old enough to remember (just) the original broadcasts and it felt revolutionary then.
Twenty years ago I bought the entire collection on DVD and enjoyed about 85% of it then. Last time I took a look I enjoyed about 50%. Doesn't devalue the historical importance of what they did though.
I think this is just part of the ageing process; I can barely listen to the Goon Show today, but loved it thirty years ago.
Comedy evolves, I find little makes me laugh out loud now while the kids laugh uproariously at stuff I find cliched and generic. So, what makes me smile these days?
Beef And Dairy Network Podcast[^]
BBC - Search results for John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme[^]
Any suggestions for other titles?
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It's not important how funny they are now. It's the groundbreaking work they did for every comedian that came after them.
I still find most of the things that they did very funny.
And we can be eternally grateful for introducing us to the 'joys' of SPAM.
Even now the spam sketch is bloody funny.
They will always have a special place in my life.
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Just the other day, I was thinking I never wanted to be a developer. I want to be a lumberjack!
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Let’s face it !
As programmers sometimes we get into worries so easy and by elements so vague that we forget to “always look on the bright side of the life”.
[A stupid song], perfect for stupid depressions.
My humble opinion…
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You aren't Welsh, aren't you? (Ok, that's Black Adder, but still... )
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You are dead inside, likely due to a soul crushing job. You should consider chucking it all and becoming a lumberjack in the great North. i'm a lumberjack - Bing video[^]
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My experience watching Monty Python episodes is that each episode contained about 15 minutes of dreck and one skit that was incandescently humorous. Looking backward, people remember the same dozen skits that were hysterically funny, and dismiss all the others. This makes Monty Python similar to pretty much any skit-based comedy show.
Like any kind of humor, not everyone "gets" Monty Python. That doesn't make it non-funny.
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Having dealt with having to be exceedingly literal and logical (programming all day). I find the satirical, absurdist, and dry humor to be very much my liking. In the Holy Grail for instance when Arthur, King of the Britons, meets Dennis the Anarcho-Syndicalist... it is pure gold. Quite possibly the best takedown of the Monarchy and people given to AS at the same time.
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Two words: Dead Parrot.
Da Bomb
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That's your fault. You are not the Messiah. You are a very naughty boy.
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it is unexpected, intelligent, satirical humour basically.....perhaps just British thing.
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My quarantine is officially over, so I could go and get food for myself - and see how I am doing with "actual physical things" at the same time.
I take my SpO2 / PR meter with me just so I can attach numbers to my "empirical feelings".
So off I go: the plan is a quick ten mile trip to make sure the car is charged - parked up for two weeks, it's going to need some charge for sure - then ASDA; Fuel the car; Tesco. (ASDA does stuff Tesco doesn't and vice versa).
Park at ASDA: gloves, face mask, list, O2 Sats at 93% (pretty good at the moment, and getting better but a long way off the 98 ~ 99% you lot are probably still working with). Took me a while, and I had to have a sit down breather for a few minutes after I'd used the self scan for two carrier bags and pack of toilet rolls, but I did it! That's the most physical activity I've had other than vomiting for two weeks!
Back to the car, everything in the boot, return trolley, bin gloves.
Sit down, check SpO2 sats: 75%. ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) - that's why I'm so exhausted.
Forget fuel, forget Tesco: Time to go home, I'll try that one tomorrow.
That was over an hour ago, and my sats are back up to 87%, and rising slowly. Still a bit light headed and my back hurts, but other than that, I'm fine. This is going to take a while.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Mate, you're going to have to take things way easy and in small and slow steps - just think of it as prep for old age .. oh, wait 
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You're a cruel man ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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I suppose he speaks from experience
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Interesting that you're working with an external blood O2 monitor. I was just doing some online browsing (within the last 20 minutes prior to your post) as to how one can justify that they can possibly work.
Here's my reasoning: The device is working on the optical density reading from of a beam of light sent through your finger (or into and reflected back). It measures the amount of hemoglobin present vs. deoxyhemoglobin (the bluer stuff when the oxygen is used up - usually holding CO2. This certainly can be measured and compared to other reading on the same finger on the same person.
HOWEVER, it take no account of the optical density of the person's skin, thickness of that skin, and their blood-count. We haven't even entered into scattering as each person's body's a bit different. In other words, it really cannot work unless it is specifically set up (standardized) for a particular user by comparison with their actual blood and a proper oxygen saturation
analysis. It is certainly using infrared as were it using anything in the visible spectrum than those with very dark skin would be unmeasurable. The references had some mention of certain drugs and physical ailments that can interfere, as well.
Now I'm not saying it's quite useless - you do have relative readings for yourself and that can be of some value (as you just experienced via exhaustion and recovery). If this all sounds like I'm over-suspicious of it's utility, consider that of the several MD's I've visited (when live visits were a thing), they use these devices for the purpose of taking one's pulse. Period.
Still - they made their money selling them to every physician's office and hospital and now have cut the price and are marketing them for exercise junkies.
Just be aware of it's intrinsic limitations - the readings are relative. If you correlate them with your own perceived physical condition you can very likely use them.
I guess I ought to sign off on this as Sciencesplainer
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That's why I bought one - not for "absolute values", though I'm pretty sure the "medical grade" ones all paramedics carry and are the first thing they attach are accurate, mine code £29 from Amazon. So I'm expecting relative values, not absolutes.
The idea is to confirm I've pushed a bit too hard (or will shortly) and give me a better "feeling" for how much I'm improving on a daily basis. I'm anal retentive like that ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'm anal retentive
You keep it where? 
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I had a USB-C fitted ... 
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I hope it was not too painful
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Might sound like a Sciencesplainer myself but I looked a bit into the subject last year when I needed to buy one for a friend. You can find the TL;DR on Wikipedia[^].
Quote: HOWEVER, it take no account of the optical density of the person's skin, thickness of that skin, and their blood-count. We haven't even entered into scattering as each person's body's a bit different. In other words, it really cannot work unless it is specifically set up (standardized) for a particular user
Quoting from the same source: "By subtracting the minimum transmitted light from the transmitted light in each wavelength, the effects of other tissues are corrected for, generating a continuous signal for pulsatile arterial blood."
A coda triggered also by Griff's post: went on Amazon to look at the oxymeter I bought in 2018 for 35$.... it is now 90$... man, some people a making a killing from this killer pandemic!
Mircea
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Went to your Wikipedia article: It talked about normalization - and that brought a question to my mind: normalization is essentially putting all items on a fixed scale (for example, 0 to 1 is very common, by subtracting the minimum and then dividing the values by the maximum in the range).
Anyway - normalized with respect to what it has - which is (as I had noted in my OP) that you can use it to compare you to various states of yourself and not much more.
Further down the page, in the limitations section, this was born out.
Quote: The metabolism of oxygen can be readily measured by monitoring expired CO2, but saturation figures give no information about blood oxygen content. Most of the oxygen in the blood is carried by hemoglobin; in severe anemia, the blood contains less hemoglobin, which despite being saturated cannot carry as much oxygen.
So - it compares you to you. In actuality, since it does not have a zero value, it cannot even really normalize. How does it know how low you can go? Essentially, this is why none of the medical professionals I've seen use it for any purpose beyond pulse. You'd need a blood-count to know how much hemoglobin is potentially available.
As for the interesting concept of price: The reason I happened to have been looking at this before Griff's post is this item on NewEgg's email offers for the day.[^] Others are on the page, as well, more in line with you original $34 price point. I've seen what you're referring to: a $25 webcam offered for $100 - $200.
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