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Rather than carry a candle, it is much easier to curse the darkness.
And also more fun.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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My AV runs out at the end of the month, so I'm looking to renew it. And I find on Amazon that one supplier has three different delivery options:
"Frustration free" packaging, sent by Prime next day.
"Standard" packaging, sent by Prime next day.
"Activation code", sent by email.
Now, I'd expect the pricing to reflect that order: most expensive at the top, least expensive at the bottom.
But...
Quote: [DELETED] 2020 | 5 Devices | 1 Year | Antivirus and Secure VPN Included | PC/Mac/Android | Activation Code by Post
Activation Code in Frustration Free Packaging
£23.99
FREE One-Day
Get it Tomorrow, Aug 3
More buying choices
£21.00 (7 new offers)
Activation Code by Email
£3.99 delivery
Activation Code in Standard Packaging
£24.86
FREE One-Day
Get it Tomorrow, Aug 3
It's more expensive to sell me a an electronic code, shipped electronically, than to stock a physical item, and physically deliver it to me? 
And frustrating packaging costs more than frustration free?
Are most of this companies customers masochists? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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If you're running Windows, you don't need to pay for an AV program. Windows Defender is now rated as highly as the paid ones. I also run Malwarebytes Premium, which is a paid subscription. I've never had a problem, and on several occasions Malwarebytes has intercepted attempts to access websites that contain Trojans. A couple of those links were actually from would-be articles on this site.
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Defender annoyed the heck out of me last time I used it: no matter how I configured it, it insisted on doing a full scan at 14:00 every damn day. So every afternoon, my computer moved like a stunned slug on Mogadon.
And I want it to cover PC and android devices: Herself is starting to use the internet (only Google News and the weather forecast so far, but ... baby steps) and I'd rather she didn't stumble into something nasty. Using the same software across all five devices (two Android and three PC) just makes my life easier, is all.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Similar to above, there is one more variation in prices. Respective websites would sell the AV's in almost more than double the prices that are there on e-commerce sites like Amazon.
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Sandeep Mewara wrote: Respective websites would sell the AV's in almost more than double the prices that are there on e-commerce sites like Amazon.
Unless there are legal restrictions on the maximum price, it's not illegal to sell something at higher than the going rate. It's up to you to ensure that you are actually getting the lowest price.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I understand that but AV original website selling it for lets say $15-20 for 1 user-1 system and the same specifications on Amazon would be around $5-7.
Now, are we talking there are few who wants to sell with way less profit here?
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Maybe Amazon are using it as a loss leader.
The idea is that they tempt you into the store with an amazing price on product A, but once you are in the store, you remember that you also need B, C, and D. They make up their loss by selling you B, C, and D at above-market prices.
Supermarkets do it all the time.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Okay, maybe! I will consider myself smart-buyer then  ... I just buy A and exit.
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I understand it very well:
- The e-mail activation must include the retraining costs of the dunce that actually sends the e-mail. He/she/it/... needs retraining at the start of every day, and after every lunch, coffee, or smoking break.
- The standard packaging (probably one of those hard plastic shells that have to be opened with a machete) costs more to manufacture than the frustration-free packaging.
Any other questions? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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In a way, it reminds me of the way concert tickets are sold. If I order them online and pick them up at the will-call window (which requires human intervention), they're just the face value of the ticket. If I opt to print them at home, on my printer using my paper, they're $$ more.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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... and say Cheeeeeese![^]
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Yeah they were nervous...I would be too!
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
JaxCoder.com
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I had flight simulators that looked the same. Why did all those games play in Egypt? a flat landscape with lots of pyramids. 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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That tank would be completely wrecked if it crashed into those balls of steel 
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Using ASP.NET Core Razor Pages for an application.
I've got this really simple thing where I need to let users enter a decimal number.
It seems this is one of the hardest things in programming in 2020.
Insert the "I'm about to end this man's whole career" meme here.
Elephanting thing won't let me enter a comma because my browser says the dot is my decimal separator.
Unfortunately, my Windows begs to differ.
So I enter a dot in the browser, e.g. "1.2", and I get "12" in my back-end.
This is an international application so I need to get it right somehow 
Maybe I'll just allow ANY input and just parse the damn thing myself...
The only good thing about this is that I get the same behavior in every browser 
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> Maybe I'll just allow ANY input and just parse the damn thing myself
It's not that hard. That's what I would do.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Not hard, but sad that I have to
Or maybe actually harder than we think, because even the smart people at Google, Mozilla and Microsoft did it wrong
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There is a huge gulf between designing frameworks and developing applications. Here, they didn't even get a piss simple thing right. I don't even bother looking at a framework unless it's recommended by someone I trust. Most of them get in the way as much as they help, or worse.
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It's not even framework related, even a simple <input type="number" step="0.1" /> doesn't work.
The number input won't even let me enter a comma whereas the generated text will let me enter it, but the validation tells me it's not valid.
At least with the text input I can override the jQuery validation
This seems to be wrong on a very basic level, either on the browser which looks at my browser settings instead of my OS settings, or .NET, which uses my OS settings instead of browser settings, or something in between I don't know.
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One of my colleagues wrote an ASP.NET Core application, it causes me a lot of headaches trying to stop and uninstall it from an Inno Setup installer, the damn thing just seems to keep running even though I wrote a special "Stopper" application.
Do you have any advice or experience regarding that ?
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Format and reinstall without even getting near that app?  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nope, all my apps stop when they should and sometimes when they shouldn't
Did your colleague spin up a separate thread that he never disposes?
I've seen applications keep running in the background before, both web and desktop, and it was usually a threading problem (and a bad code base overall, but that's another issue).
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