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This survey assumes I have the ability to define or asses tasteful as I still consider battleshit grey the height of UI design I will refrain from voting.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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All Apple's devices are equal, some customize is possible. The PC devices (windows) aren't the best visually, but in usability wins the apple devices. The Microsoft leaves the creativity with the user.
The beauty is ephemeral.
The developer side the Microsoft is a paradise.
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Yes, Microsoft is indeed a paradise fro developer.
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If the tool is very poorly designed you may not be able to find even the most basic options. Save button? It's located on a button bar that's only visible when you press a button in the lower right corner five times
Seriously, I've seen a program that used a lightblue font on a classic winform background. The program did everything it had to do, but if you didn't know what the buttons did you'd never know because you couldn't read the caption. I've been told the owner of the company who made that software is a little colour blind... To top it off they used a different icon than you're used to for all of the standard stuff. I can't remember what it was, but the save button did not have a diskette, the new button did not have a blank page etc. To show the error log you had to click a button with a picture of an actual bug on it. The icons were completely unrelated. Who could/want ever work with that!?
Yeah, design matters...
As for my answer to the poll, Google. I like the way my browser looks (Chrome), I like the way my homepage looks (iGoogle), I like the way my email looks (GMail) and I like the way my favourite search engine looks (Bing, j/k Google ).
That doesn't mean I don't like the others, I just like Google a bit more. Oh, by the way, the new metro design just doesn't do it for me...
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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I pick hardware and software for a specific purpose. Both can look as spartan as they like, as long as they fulfill this purpose. Design is just spice, not the main course.
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
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CDP1802 wrote: Design is just spice, not the main course.
And spice is what adds "taste" to the food.
..Go Green..
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you kidding dude just because you have no taste does not mean you're hardcore
despite fact I never spent a penny on iphone/ipad/mac boxes because of the extra cost, i admit they have much cleaner design PC and many appliance manufacturer really should pay attention to how an appliance fit into living space
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devvvy wrote: you kidding dude just because you have no taste does not mean you're
hardcore
Just as running around with a shiny toy does not mean you have taste.
devvvy wrote: i admit they have much cleaner design PC and many appliance manufacturer really
should pay attention to how an appliance fit into living space
Yes, a typical PC is not really a beauty, but it's practical. I don't have that box standing under my desk as decoration, but if you must, you can install the contents of that grey box inside almost anything.
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you must be really hardcore aren't you
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Don't know why someone downvoted you.
Have my 5.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Thanks
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Exactly! We are talking about computer hardware, not designer shoes.
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yea man, exactly, that's why you are so ugly
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CDP1802 wrote: Design is just spice, not the main course.
Try removing all salt from your recipies, then say that spice isn't important.
That said, I pick for a specific purpose as well, and they need to do that purpose and not drive me up a wall in doing so. It was like the first time I was forced to use emacs while in school. "Wait, I have to hit what combination to save? Ctrl+x then Ctrl+s? Or was it Ctrl+W then Ctrl+s? Or was it v? Why can't it just have a menu and a 'Save' function?"
It drove me into the arms of Eclipse and their functional UI. Please note, this was when Eclipse was still a clean quick program. And we were forced to use emacs for the same reason you have to learn the long formulas in mathmatics.
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i will second that, i guess i must be sucky programmer as i never understand the need to demonstrate how much we don't understand relevance of aesthetic in order to be hardcore and thus competent programmer
plain stupid
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Mom? Is that you? Remember when we went to buy a computer many years ago? The one that you wanted me to buy because it looked so great was an Amiga. They were obsolete at that time and they did not actually sell them anymore. They just had this last one on display to remember the good old times.
So, you call me stupid? Come over and explain that to me personally. Perhaps you will then find out how 'hardcore' I can get. I am aware that there are enough Muggles out there that would pay any price for a box full of electronics junk as long as you put it in a shiny case and tell them that they look great carrying it around. I don't need toys or shiny accessories because I can think of a few far more interesting things.
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
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you aren't very bright are you
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No, at leat not when compared to a little sunshine like you.
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RJOberg wrote: Try removing all salt from your recipies, then say that spice isn't important.
Indeed? Salt is one of those things we use too much and using it more sparingly actually would be healthy. The primary function of eating still is to stay alive, not to enjoy the great taste. That's just a bonus.
RJOberg wrote: That said, I pick for a specific purpose as well, and they need to do that
purpose and not drive me up a wall in doing so. It was like the first time I was
forced to use emacs while in school. "Wait, I have to hit what combination to
save? Ctrl+x then Ctrl+s? Or was it Ctrl+W then Ctrl+s? Or was it v? Why can't
it just have a menu and a 'Save' function?"
You want functionality and tools that fit well to your needs? Nothing against that. But I don't need all kinds of eye candy or devices with ornamental cases made of precious metals and decorated with diamonds. I don't intend to show off with them and actually rarely look at them at all. Instead I intend to use them and am far more interested in how far the insides of the cases will bring me.
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
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Here's a hard to beat combination (on the software front): Google ingenuity, Apple UX and Microsoft tooling. If I could develop for Android (which sported Apple's look and feel) using Visual Studio, I think I'd have died and gone to heaven.
/ravi
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Great thought, but I am afraid that heaven is a long way ahead.
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Dejan Petrovic wrote: but I am afraid that heaven is a long way ahead
Or above
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Sorry, Apple patented team work and Microsoft and Google won't pay the licensing fees.
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Yes, I've used Eclipse since 2000. It's come a long way (but was always a good IDE). I also intend to use it when I start hacking Android, as it's the de facto standard for Android development.
/ravi
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