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I hope you're not over 25 years old!
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Your mother must be so proud.
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She works for TRW, production forecaster/planer for maker of auto parts, not real rosy picture in that area. luckily 90 percent of what they make goes overseas.
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... it's the corporate nonsense.
I've got one group I'm required work with that's fairly openly trying to take my group's job away. These guys are incredibly adept at self-promotion.
Our newest project's schedule is unachievable. We all feel like we're being maneuvered into failing so that they can terminate us for cause, thereby avoiding any severance issues.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
Our newest project's schedule is unachievable. We all feel like we're being maneuvered into failing so that they can terminate us for cause, thereby avoiding any severance issues.
Have no fear Gary, I'm breaking out the voodoo dolls as we speak. 
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World Economy is going down & down everyday despite of the fact that Governments are coming up with new plans/actions….
Who ever wins Obama/Mccain or even OSAMA...
2009 will be tough  .
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2009, 2010 and at least 2011... 2012 should start looking up. Back to 2007 levels by 2015. Then 2030 we'll be tanking again having learned nothing from 2008-2012.
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I'm a contractor, I am always looking ahead for the next contract. It may not be that easy to get but then that is factored into my lifestyle. A couple of weeks/months hunting around for a good one is the price a contractor pays.
So I can comfortably say I'm not worried!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Well I don't know about not worried. It has been a real PITA to find decent paying contracts since last January. I find them but it takes a lot more effort than it used too.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.
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I'm in the tail end of 4 yrs in the same contract and it was not through an agency so it has been 7 years since I had to look to the market. A little out of touch I must admit. While I'm not looking forward to it I am prepared.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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4 years at one place would be interesting
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.
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Nah it has deteriated into support, very little new work so I am moving the team from Vb to C#, rewrite all the tools and any new dev will be in C#. It's the longest job I have ever had in 35 yrs of work and 20 yrs as a developer.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: It has been a real PITA to find decent paying contracts since last January
It has been a real PITA to find paying contracts since July!
Kevin
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: A couple of weeks/months hunting around for a good one is the price a contractor pays
Yeah, but when it gets longer than two months I start worrying...  (It's longer than 2 months now.)
Kevin
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You can only be "untouchable" if you work for yourself - no company can be immune from lean times, and even goverment programs may get cuts.
So if the poll is about jobs (that is, being paid for doing work for someone else), I do not quite understand those (now 20%) people who select this choice
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I selected it, our software always does well in bad economic times because it helps businesses be more efficient and profitable and this time around is no different, we're doing better than we ever have. That being said I do work for myself though technically I work for the corporation that I am president of.
I would definitely not have answered this way if I was not the boss, I assumed everyone else who did was self employed as well, you'd be crazy to pick this choice if you weren't.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it."
-Sam Levenson
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John C wrote: I assumed everyone else who did was self employed as well
Seems a little high, if you consider the proactive developers here will be the more advanced then 20% self employed may be valid.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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dmitri_sps wrote: You can only be "untouchable" if you work for yourself
Not even then as I've seen freelancers take a dip whenever the recessions make their clients cut back. Far beyond the well drying up for a freelancer, the impact of a recession could be lessened out if the scope of his/her operation would be broader.
I selected that option. Ever since I joined the workforce a few years ago while still in college I concentrated on preventing myself becoming shoehorned in a single industry or even two for that matter. Anything happens to my main gig there is a backup, anything happens to that there is a third level fallback... anything beyond would mean someone pressed the button and all is FUBAR.
In that sense, I am untouchable. Recession? this one? 
-=[ R ]=-
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Rogelio Perea wrote: Not even then as I've seen freelancers take a dip whenever the recessions make their clients cut back
Freelancers are an entirely different group of self employed and I agree entirely they should not feel at all confident. I was thinking of ISV's like ourselves.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it."
-Sam Levenson
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Yes, untouchable.
When it comes to opportunity, prosperity, and determination, we live in the greatest country in the world. The American dream is still very much alive if you make sure that you can provide something that someone else is willing and able to pay for.
Of course, this is threatened by us electing a Socialist into the office of the presidency and electing other socialists into our legislative branch. I get really nervous when the proposed leadership wants to "spread the wealth." That's right, the Obama/Marx ticket in 2008 is not getting my vote and should not get yours either. They can keep the "change" they want to bring about. I do not believe in the slogan, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
So, if you would like to protect your job and keep the American Dream alive, do not vote for the Socialist ticket. If you want to however, just remember that you should vote on Wednesday, November 5th.
Cheers,
Calvin
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 The facts say otherwise. I can't vote in your election but like much of the world I'm profoundly affected by it and I don't think it would be an exxageration to say that many outside the U.S. probably keep more up to date with the news and the policies of the candidates than a pretty high percentage inside the U.S. so I think an informed rebuttal might not be out of line here.
I am fervently anti socialist but I think you're way off base here. The republicans have treated the cream of corporate america like a socialist state for 8 years and done little for the small business owner and average person that the vast majority of U.S. people here would fall into. I think the U.S. would benefit greatly under a democratic regime for a couple of terms and the republicans (at least the current ones) have shown no fiscal responsibility whatsoever and taxed and spent far more freely than most left leaning politicians would even think is wise.
I can't vote in your election but if I could I'd be looking for a candidate who was fiscally conservative and socially liberal and honestly I think the democrats and Obama fit the bill.
Consider the state of the economy in general under the last Democrat and Republican regimes and it's pretty clear which one is better for business and the average person and the rest of us around the world who, after all, have provided the customers that drive the wealth of the U.S.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it."
-Sam Levenson
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John C wrote: Consider the state of the economy in general under the last Democrat and Republican regimes and it's pretty clear which one is better for business and the average person and the rest of us around the world who, after all, have provided the customers that drive the wealth of the U.S.
You are missing the role congress plays in this as they have at least as much power as the president as far as economic policy is concerned. Under Clinton the Republicans controlled the congress and Senate for 6 years. Under Bush the Democrats were and are in control for 6 years.
John
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Good point. The congress is who spends money, the president does not. I think most people should know that the government has no money, and it makes no money. It only takes money from its citizens and uses that money on its programs. If more people understood that, we would not stand for the huge budgets the people we elected are calling for.
-Calvin
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Get your facts straight:
W and the GOPigs ran the US for the Shrub's first six years.
The problems? Pure Republicans Stupidity. Period.
The result:
Weakend our military by sheer exhaustion.
Cut benifits to veterans and closed Veterans hospitals
Crushed our status throughout the world.
Ignored and trampled upon the US Constitution at will.
An every shrinking middle class - and it isn't because they're getting rich.
Fiscal policy of a madman: cut taxes and increase spending.
They've raped us financially. Allowed big corporations to get bigger, eliminating competition.
Complaints about socialist leaning politicians? And how is this corporate welfare an improvement on that?
The Borrow-And-Spend Republicans have taxed us into national poverty
And - it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone: the other moron (a.k.a. Ronald Reagan) did the same crap, which brought us the Savings & Loan disaster. $500 Million in taxes to fix that up. Same deal, too: deregualtion and stopping the regulators from enforicing what few laws were left. That, too, was orchestrated by the Republicans (remember Newt Gaingrige and the 100 days? I do).
In his wildest wet dreams, Osama bin-Laden couldn't have hoped to do more harm to the US than was done by the Republicans.
"When we're ready to hang the last capitalist, he'll sell us the rope" - V. Lenin
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Balboos wrote: The Borrow-And-Spend Republicans have taxed us into national poverty
That's like saying all programmers like .NET. You can't lump sum as such if you ever want to be taken seriously by anyone with a brain. Blame Bush for Bush's mistakes, not a group people that have similar ideals.
Surely, you could spot the illogical thought there right? If not, I wouldn't hire you to work on my software. 
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