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... If I was born in an other century, I could not imagine what else i should do.
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I've often thought that question myself! I think it would have to be some sort of mechanical computer, like the Babbage machines or something. 
Either that or I would invent this crazy hypothetical data model in my head with no physical means to realize it, lol.
Sad but true: 4/3 of Americans have difficulty with simple fractions.
There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yup. Don't have the physical muscle to dig ditches or do hard labor or? Logical thinking just isn't rewarded anywhere else. In fact, it's more often a handicap. See: Logical Thinking is not on the TEST[^]
In fact, now that I think about it, aside from the actual coding, logical thinking isn't much rewarded at work either 
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Owen37 wrote: Logical thinking just isn't rewarded anywhere else
You can always become a mathematician, spend the rest of your life writing scary symbols on your own blackboard and have a spiritual reward. It makes sense, I know such people and they seem to feel happy with their passion.
Greetings - Gajatko
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I _did_ like math; once I got to Calculus. The stuff before just didn't make much sense. Especially Geometry.
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Owen37 wrote: The stuff before just didn't make much sense.
And that's why you liked it? BTW I like Calculus because it is used everywere and I find it amazing.
Greetings - Gajatko
Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.
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Yes, I liked it because it finally made sense of all that math I took.
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In the old days, the software engineers of today where usually Magicians.
Not an illusionist like David Copperfield, but real ones, like Aleister Crowley.
Its a lot to do with Poetry, Aligning of the Elements and Nute Boiling - just like coding...
Ittay Ophir
ittay.ophir@gmail.com
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Software development is my 4th career, and I only started (seriously and professionally) at around 26-27.
I would have loved to have gotten into it in my teens.
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support IronScheme - 1.0 beta 1 - out now! ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))
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leppie wrote: Software development is my 4th career, and I only started (seriously and professionally) at around 26-27.
How did you manage to fit 4 careers in by 26! I only managed 1 in that time. Some brief spells in other jobs, but barely careers, more like sidelines.
Simon
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1. Studied management accounting, got bored, dropped out (4 years)
2. Went to England, did IT support, got fed up with users (3 years)
3. Worked for father's business in Marketing (finished my degree in Marketing, did not like the social thing) (2 years)
4. Software dev (6-7 years, to present)
* Estimated times
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support IronScheme - 1.0 beta 1 - out now! ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))
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leppie wrote: my 4th career
It's my second. Started at 30+.
Kevin
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There is a difference between having a job for a couple of years and a career; it's just about possible to have four careers in a lifetime - but not in a decade.
"If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone."
Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War.
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Young man, I was 36 when I took my first cours and 41 when I got my first job wich I prompltly lost 6 month later when the company run out of money in the big bouble 2000. A lot of experience and a lot of strange software later Im still strugling to reach that feeling of securety I felt in my first real position back in the 70s. But my wife tells me she won´t go for anything less (in terms of salary  I love solving problems and I think I am quite good at it but I won´t solve that, no I won´t solve that....
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1. Travel back in time.
2. Buy generic domain names like download.com, computers.com, etc.
3. Sell them to Cnet for a big profit.
But yeah, I'd totally be a developer again. Either that or a pro inline skater.
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If I could do #1, I would only have 3 words on my mind: Gray's Sports Almanac*
*Back To The Future reference.
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That sounds like an underpants gnome's plan:
Step 1: Steal underpants
Step 2: (shrugs shoulders)
Step 3: Profit!
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The similarity is not a coincidence
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... and that's exactly the point. If I would have had some prior knowlegde (or even foresight), I would have quit my job after explaining this Internet and HTML thingy to the senior consultants and management who did not udnerstand a wahoota of it somewhere in 1996, started a company, sold out in 1999, and now live off some comfortable piggy bank somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle Thus, I might start again as a software developer if I could go back to when I started working in 1992, but I sure would not be working as a software developer in 2008
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A lot of people talk about getting a lot of money (the time travel thing is useful in that scenario) and then retiring. But the vast, vast majority of people who make a lot of money and sell out then spend the rest of their life (and money) funding and investing to prove to themselves that it wasn't a fluke.
I'm not sure that anyone can simply decide to play 'Left 4 Dead' for the rest of their lives and actually be fulfilled.
So even with a big bank balance there is still the urge to 'do something'. Why would it not be software dev?
"If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone."
Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War.
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I did not say I would not be developing software - I just ment to say that I would not be doing it for a living. I have a passion for software development - but it is partly driven by the fact that is the best way I can monitized my talents. I have other passions as well. After 16 years of software development I might explore them too. If you are financially independent basically EVERYTHING you do is a hobby, and hobbies may come and go in the course of a lifetime
Grtz,
Joost
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Fair enough! I guess I'm in a grumpy mood this morning and reading too much into things.
Stay lucky.
"If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone."
Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War.
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I smell the plot for a cheesy made-for-tv movie... :P
Sad but true: 4/3 of Americans have difficulty with simple fractions.
There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary and those who don't.
{o,o}.oO( Check out my blog! )
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If I knew then what I know now I would obviously be a multi-billionaire and so would not have to work for a living!
If I knew then what I know today, then I'd know the same now as I did then - then what would be the point?
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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